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  • ameri180304
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 5

    DROS - Delayed; 2nd gun though..

    Question:

    First I'm new here, so haiiii :-) But in summary, in 2006 I bought brass knuckles in Arizona and was on probation and all that nonsense here in California. I'm off that probation, no warrants - everythings totally 100% done with.

    2 Months ago I applied for a Remington 710 30.06; and a XD 45 caliber handgun. All went well, I was approved - and given my guns.

    On 9/20/2014 - I applied for my second handgun (XD 9mm) - today is day 9; my pickup date is tomorrow (9/30). I just now received a call from the gun place saying my "status was delayed".

    I'm so irritated that California has this 10 day waiting law from the get go. I looked up on the DOJ website and saw this; (http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/) -- they have three classifications; Denied, Rejected, or Delayed. Well thankfully it wasn't rejected or denied. Has anyone been delayed? Is this common? I see that this could be anything from "an open end in the legal system, to simply them being busy".

    It wouldn't surprise me tho if they just wanted to find a reason to prevent gun ownership in this state though. But keep in mind, this is the second DROS and my first 2 months back went through successfully.

    Thanks in advance everyone :-)
  • #2
    Marquand
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1482

    I'd recommend patience on this issue. There are dozens of reasons a person can be delayed by the DOJ, not all of them have anything to do with you. Background files get pulled for other purposes (business license application, restraining orders, etc.) and sometimes people just make mistakes.

    I would recommend contacting the store you purchased from and ask them what their policy is regarding "Undetermined" status. If after 30 days the DOJ cannot determine your eligibility they allow the store who sold you the firearm to either complete or deny the transaction at their discretion. Please keep in mind that other than knowing your "Delayed" status, the store has no idea what the cause of your delay might be.
    "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      ameri180304
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 5

      Well, hopefully it's nothing.. Thankfully it's not declined or rejected or anything - hopefully their just busy. Fingers crossed though... Regardless, I'll report back. What bothers me though is that I bought two guns and was approved so it's just irritating. I called the DOJ, and they didn't really say much. No restraining orders, domestic violence - only time I got in trouble was back in 2006.

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      • #4
        JGalt
        Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 231

        I've been delayed but it worked out in the end, and I havnt had trouble since. Just give the DOJ a call and find out why.

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        • #5
          ameri180304
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 5

          Update:
          I bought on 9/20/2014

          10/20/2014:
          (California Penal Code section 28220(f)(4)) 30 days maximum

          Today is 10/21/2014 - I just called in, and the DOJ said its still pending. I said well its been 30 days now... They said their system uses a full 24 hours on the 30th or 31st day. BS really....

          Again, only been arrested once in 2006. This is my second purchase (both were new guns, bought one 3 months ago, approved = this second one on 9/20/14 got delayed).

          Just thought i'd update the community

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          • #6
            rkhill
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 17

            Originally posted by ameri180304
            Update:
            I bought on 9/20/2014

            10/20/2014:
            (California Penal Code section 28220(f)(4)) 30 days maximum

            Today is 10/21/2014 - I just called in, and the DOJ said its still pending. I said well its been 30 days now... They said their system uses a full 24 hours on the 30th or 31st day. BS really....


            Just thought i'd update the community
            Did you receive the gun?
            I'm in the same boat I purchesed a rossi m92 on11-22-14 was notified on 11-28 of delayed status. I have no reason why. This is not my first time buying a fireare in Ca. Last year I purchesed a shotgun without an issue. I have no idea what to do.

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            • #7
              ameri180304
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 5

              Hey, sorry for not replying....

              So in summary, I was arrested once years and years ago (I bought brass knuckles in AZ, took them to commiefornia). I got off probation like a year ago, I bought a handgun and rifle, received it in 10 days no problems. I went and applied for my second handgun (like 40 days later), and I got the problem I listed above.

              On day 31, I received a call from the store -- telling me to come pickup my gun, I have it here. I don't know if it was "approved", or "unable to determine" or what.

              Unless I'm on a list somewhere, that was the only thing I've ever been arrested for... 6-7+ years ago.

              I'll be buying another one in the next few weeks and post back given something occurs again. Let me know what happens with you rkhill...

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              • #8
                Eljay
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4985

                Originally posted by rkhill
                Did you receive the gun?
                I'm in the same boat I purchesed a rossi m92 on11-22-14 was notified on 11-28 of delayed status. I have no reason why. This is not my first time buying a fireare in Ca. Last year I purchesed a shotgun without an issue. I have no idea what to do.
                Who knows, maybe somebody with a similar name got into trouble. Maybe it was just your unlucky day.

                Basically they have 30 days (as noted above 30 full 24 hour periods) to approve or deny. If they still haven't gotten around to it by then it's the FFL's option to release. You might talk to the FFL about their policy.

                In the past people used to recommend being proactive - getting Livescans done, calling the DOJ, etc. This seems to be pointless now unless you actually get a deny back in which case you'll want to figure out how the appeal process works (or better yet get an attorney on it). You may or may not get a letter from the DOJ in a couple of weeks with information as to what the problem is. Then again it may just say "other".

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                • #9
                  ameri180304
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 5

                  .....from what I was told the DOJ and the court systems don't synch. So if you've been in trouble like me, you'll get delayed. Ask the court to send the deposition or whatever to the DOJ.

                  My names really complex, in fact - I doubt anyone in this country has it. They said that same reason, but I found that reason to be doubtful.

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                  • #10
                    anthem
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 766

                    I was delayed for months a few years ago.

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                    • #11
                      rkhill
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 17

                      Originally posted by ameri180304
                      Hey, sorry for not replying....
                      (Snipped)
                      Let me know what happens with you rkhill...
                      Well I finally was able to pickup the rifle today but whole process left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean I had to wait an extra 20 days to receive it and I have no idea why. If I decide to purchese another firearm will I have to go through this again. It kinda makes you wonder what is going on at the CA DOJ.

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                      • #12
                        tanks
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 4038

                        Apply for a CCW, then you get used to waiting.
                        "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                        "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by rkhill
                          Well I finally was able to pickup the rifle today but whole process left a bad taste in my mouth. I mean I had to wait an extra 20 days to receive it and I have no idea why. If I decide to purchese another firearm will I have to go through this again. It kinda makes you wonder what is going on at the CA DOJ.
                          And now you know why we have delays. To discourage people from buying guns.
                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                          • #14
                            tonyxcom
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 6397

                            Originally posted by ameri180304
                            Hey, sorry for not replying....

                            So in summary, I was arrested once years and years ago (I bought brass knuckles in AZ, took them to commiefornia). I got off probation like a year ago, I bought a handgun and rifle, received it in 10 days no problems. I went and applied for my second handgun (like 40 days later), and I got the problem I listed above.
                            So you were on probation for years and years?

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