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  • mikeyr
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    • Sep 2011
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    Bond Arms derringer in Calif ?

    I know the Bond Arms guns are not available in Calif. but on this months Blue Press (monthly magazine put out by Dillon) there is a advert for Bond Arms that says "coming soon to California"

    How could they do that ? maybe make a permanent single shot to get around the roster ? I would dearly love a .410 and x caliber toy from them. I have not decided the "x" part, I think 45LC but there are so many to choose from I assume .410 is what the problem is with this gun in Calif. so maybe they will make a barrel combo that does not include the .410, but I am just guessing.

    Anyway, the question is does anyone know what they will sell (or are going to try and sell) in Calif. ? There is nothing on their website about it, i looked all over.
    Last edited by mikeyr; 09-15-2014, 4:16 PM.
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    Merc1138
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    • Feb 2009
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    Last I saw about the bond arms CA model, was the possibility of a receiver and barrel modified so you can't swap in the .410 barrel.

    edit: BTW, I'm not sure how you missed it on their website(I hadn't looked again till after I already typed my reply). http://bondarms.com/bond-arms-california-legal-guns/
    Last edited by Merc1138; 09-15-2014, 4:34 PM.

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    • #3
      Quiet
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      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by mikeyr
      I know the Bond Arms guns are not available in Calif. but on this months Blue Press (monthly magazine put out by Dillon) there is a advert for Bond Arms that says "coming soon to California"

      How could they do that ? maybe make a permanent single shot to get around the roster ? I would dearly love a .410 and x caliber toy from them. I have not decided the "x" part, I think 45LC but there are so many to choose from I assume .410 is what the problem is with this gun in Calif. so maybe they will make a barrel combo that does not include the .410, but I am just guessing.

      Anyway, the question is does anyone know what they will sell (or are going to try and sell) in Calif. ? There is nothing on their website about it, i looked all over.
      As of last month, there are two Bond Arms derringers on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

      The CA approved Bond Arms derringers are chambered in .45LC and the barrels can not be changed.

      Under CA laws, a .410 barrel makes a handgun into a SBS.


      Bond Arms / Big Bear / Stainless Derringer 3" .45 Colt , 8/5/2015


      Bond Arms / Brown Bear / Stainless Derringer 3" .45 Colt , 8/21/2015
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        mikeyr
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        • Sep 2011
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        Originally posted by Merc1138
        edit: BTW, I'm not sure how you missed it on their website(I hadn't looked again till after I already typed my reply). http://bondarms.com/bond-arms-california-legal-guns/
        Thank You ! I can't find a way to that page from their menu which is what I did but THANK YOU !

        So....you can't swap barrels is how they got them in Calif. I am "ok" with 45LC but I really wanted .410 which I know is a big no-no in Calif.
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          EOD Guy
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          • Oct 2005
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          Where does it say that you can't change barrels on the California models?

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            Merc1138
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            • Feb 2009
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            Originally posted by EOD Guy
            Where does it say that you can't change barrels on the California models?
            On the product descriptions from distributors like GOG(davidsons).

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              ke6guj
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              • Nov 2003
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              Originally posted by mikeyr
              Thank You ! I can't find a way to that page from their menu which is what I did but THANK YOU !

              So....you can't swap barrels is how they got them in Calif. I am "ok" with 45LC but I really wanted .410 which I know is a big no-no in Calif.
              I don't think the "can't swap barrels" is what got them into CA, successfully passing the drop tests and roster certification is what got them into CA.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                Darto
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                • Apr 2012
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                " Twenty-two interchangeable barrels made of highest quality stainless steel which will fit on any of our guns" ---



                Anybody here own a Calif. Bond derringer? Will it take other barrels?

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                  Darto
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                  • Apr 2012
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                  Wonder if the barrels interchange?
                  Last edited by Darto; 09-16-2014, 11:46 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    Originally posted by Darto
                    http://bondarms.com/bond-arms-california-legal-guns/

                    Wonder if the barrels interchange?
                    The CA approved ones will not have interchangeable barrels.
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                    • #11
                      stitchnicklas
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                      • Feb 2010
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                      probably different spec barrels so they cant interchange

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                        ke6guj
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                        Originally posted by Quiet
                        The CA approved ones will not have interchangeable barrels.
                        I wonder why they went that route. because someone could change to a different off-roster barrel? whats the difference between that and putting a LW barrel in a Glock? Is bond arms trying to protect me from myself so I don't put a .45/410 barrel on it?
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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                        • #13
                          Merc1138
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          Originally posted by ke6guj
                          I wonder why they went that route. because someone could change to a different off-roster barrel? whats the difference between that and putting a LW barrel in a Glock? Is bond arms trying to protect me from myself so I don't put a .45/410 barrel on it?
                          Considering nothing stopped them from getting existing guns on the roster, it seems to be a case of paranoia over CA's SBS crap and .410, and their company wanting to have absolutely nothing to do with it in any way whatsoever.

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                            curtru
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                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1278

                            I was looking at their site earlier and it was still saying not available in California.

                            Sent from my SCH-S735C

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                              mikeyr
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                              • Sep 2011
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                              the website does not mention it anywhere and you can't find this page via their menu system, it must be a link somewhere on the site.

                              Thanks to Merc1138 for the link http://bondarms.com/bond-arms-california-legal-guns/

                              Guess this multiple projectile ammo would fill the missing .410 as a snake load. https://www.lehighdefense.com/index....le-ammo-detail
                              Last edited by mikeyr; 09-16-2014, 3:14 PM.
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