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  • Guntech
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1722

    Need to refinish my Browning HP

    I have searched so no need to say use the search button. I want to get my gun refinished and I don't really want to wait 4+ weeks. I was going to send it to CCR, but that is across the country and the turn around is a while(I have heard 10 weeks in some horror stories lol). So can you guys recommend any good refinishing services in California?
    Thanks
    " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
    -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


  • #2
    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11762

    Techplate in Anaheim but they are in So Cal.
    They do hard chrome, dura-coat and a few others.
    they did a hard chrome on a 1911 frame for me for $100 in about 1 week.
    No blueing though. Should be someone local to you for blueing.
    Your go to metal finishing shop. We offer a variety of plating, coating, and chemnical processing.

    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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    • #3
      Guntech
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1722

      I want it hard chromed not blued should have said that in advance.
      So the turn around was 1 week? Did you ship it or go get it yourself? I am kind of hesitant to just ship my gun to someone, but I see they have their FFL listed on there site.
      " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
      -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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      • #4
        Black Majik
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 9695

        Try socal?

        Your go to metal finishing shop. We offer a variety of plating, coating, and chemnical processing.


        Ah boogers, I got beaten/didn't read the replies.

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        • #5
          ojisan
          Agent 86
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2008
          • 11762

          I live about 50 miles away so I dropped it off and picked it up.
          They were excellent to deal with.
          The guy who helped me pointed out that the finish I asked for would not work well on my stainless steel frame.
          He suggested the hard chrome. I asked him what it looked like, if he had a sample. He stopped some other worker from packing a box and took the packed items back out. He opened one up...it was a Glock slide....one of about 500 in a batch I saw next. These guys HC plate for Glock it seems!
          I was very pleased with them.
          Here's my Para after plating the frame:

          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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          • #6
            ojisan
            Agent 86
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2008
            • 11762

            Please excuse the black lint in the checkering on the front strap.
            They have other color hard chromes, too.
            Specialty colors may take longer.

            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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            • #7
              Guntech
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 1722

              What is the hard chrome on your frame called ojisan? It looks like exactly what I want. And what do you think it will run me, is the prep work and disassembly included in the price? Under prices on their website it says Semi-Auto pistols $210, than it says $120 under minimum price for Hard chrome? So is it $210 or $210+$120? They are closed right now so cant ask them lol
              Last edited by Guntech; 09-20-2008, 5:05 PM.
              " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
              -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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              • #8
                redcliff
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2008
                • 5676

                Originally posted by ojisan
                I live about 50 miles away so I dropped it off and picked it up.
                They were excellent to deal with.
                The guy who helped me pointed out that the finish I asked for would not work well on my stainless steel frame.
                He suggested the hard chrome. I asked him what it looked like, if he had a sample. He stopped some other worker from packing a box and took the packed items back out. He opened one up...it was a Glock slide....one of about 500 in a batch I saw next. These guys HC plate for Glock it seems!
                I was very pleased with them.
                Here's my Para after plating the frame:
                Very nice looking pistol, congratulations However, I'm not sure what the advantage is of hard-chroming a stainless steel frame? Could you enlighten me please?

                I know in race cars we used to avoid any kind of chrome plating due to hydrogen embrittlement.
                "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                • #9
                  Guntech
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1722

                  BTT
                  " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
                  -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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                  • #10
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by redcliff
                    Very nice looking pistol, congratulations However, I'm not sure what the advantage is of hard-chroming a stainless steel frame? Could you enlighten me please?

                    I know in race cars we used to avoid any kind of chrome plating due to hydrogen embrittlement.
                    Hard chrome is hard (imagine that), has good lubricity, and a good plater can control the thickness buildup if you need a certain finished dimension...e.g., frame rail width to fit a certain slide.

                    I've never heard of a documented case of hydrogen embrittlement in a firearms application. Post-baking the part after plating for 3 hours at 190C will diffuse any hydrogen back into the metal...I wouldn't even consider it for a gun part.

                    Reciprocating stresses in a racing engine are very different that what a gun sees; stress cracking from H embrittlement requires high tensile stress to appear, stress you just don't see in a gun.

                    Think about hard chrome in a few bazillion ar and fal barrels, ever heard of a cracked barrel due to H embrittlement??. It's a non-issue.

                    -hanko
                    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                    • #11
                      redcliff
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5676

                      Thank you for the informative answer
                      "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                      "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                      "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                      "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                      although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                      • #12
                        M. Sage
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 19759

                        Originally posted by -hanko
                        Think about hard chrome in a few bazillion ar and fal barrels, ever heard of a cracked barrel due to H embrittlement??. It's a non-issue.

                        -hanko
                        And AK barrels!!

                        If the commies can manage it on stone-age equipment...
                        Originally posted by Deadbolt
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                        • #13
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11762

                          Guntech - it was called matt hard chrome. They had a $100 minimum charge back then. I gave them a bare frame. No they will not take your gun apart etc. $210 would be barrel, slide, frame and a few other small pieces.

                          Redcliff - re: plating a stainles frame...yup... wierd...LOL. OK, it is a gunsmith bare frame kit I bought. My choice was alloy or carbon steel. I was building a long life gun so I asked for carbon steel. Stainless steel was just becoming all the rage back then. It has taken me a 8 years to finish this up. When I did the front strap checkering, it was very hard to file with a big tendency to gall. The checkered area was discolored compared to the rest when done. On a carbon steel gun you then usually reblue after doing the work like this so everything matches. But I wanted a matt silver lower instead of blue on my CS frame so I took it for plating. Only when I got to Techplate did the guy there look at it and said it had too much nickel in it for the coating I asked for, as it was in his opinion, Stainless Steel! I have to say it never rusted but I always took care of it so ???
                          Anyway, the Glock slides were SS and they were plating them so what the heck I went for it. Techplate says they can strip it without damage if I want some other effect in the future. It is only .002" thick. Helped tighten that slide to frame fit to just right! : )) This is different than chrome on race car parts (a real no-no!) I understand that concern perfect.

                          Hanko - Yup! Techplate also mentioned the cost included heat treat etc so it can't be done overnight. They really knew their stuff. : ))

                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                          • #14
                            Guntech
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1722

                            Originally posted by ojisan
                            Guntech - it was called matt hard chrome. They had a $100 minimum charge back then. I gave them a bare frame. No they will not take your gun apart etc. $210 would be barrel, slide, frame and a few other small pieces.

                            Redcliff - re: plating a stainles frame...yup... wierd...LOL. OK, it is a gunsmith bare frame kit I bought. My choice was alloy or carbon steel. I was building a long life gun so I asked for carbon steel. Stainless steel was just becoming all the rage back then. It has taken me a 8 years to finish this up. When I did the front strap checkering, it was very hard to file with a big tendency to gall. The checkered area was discolored compared to the rest when done. On a carbon steel gun you then usually reblue after doing the work like this so everything matches. But I wanted a matt silver lower instead of blue on my CS frame so I took it for plating. Only when I got to Techplate did the guy there look at it and said it had too much nickel in it for the coating I asked for, as it was in his opinion, Stainless Steel! I have to say it never rusted but I always took care of it so ???
                            Anyway, the Glock slides were SS and they were plating them so what the heck I went for it. Techplate says they can strip it without damage if I want some other effect in the future. It is only .002" thick. Helped tighten that slide to frame fit to just right! : )) This is different than chrome on race car parts (a real no-no!) I understand that concern perfect.

                            Hanko - Yup! Techplate also mentioned the cost included heat treat etc so it can't be done overnight. They really knew their stuff. : ))
                            So I'd have to dismantle it first, and then ship it? They must not specialize in firearms if they don't want to hassle with dismantling it. I'm currently checking with Enterprise Arms since they are a vendor on here.
                            " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
                            -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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                            • #15
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by redcliff
                              Thank you for the informative answer
                              Anytime...spray on coatings are easier to apply, but none of 'em have the elegance of hard chrome, let alone the wear resistance. I haven't tried techplate, but checkmate plating in FL does nice work and has for a long time.

                              -hanko
                              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                              A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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