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  • Eagle87Tango
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 394

    Opening a gun store?

    I was driving home from work yesterday when I went by this old mall here in Barstow that now only has a couple of businesses in it and it got me thinking about things. I was wondering if some of the people on this board who have had experience starting/running a gun shop could post on their experiences. Barstow would be a great place to run a shop like that. So many people drive through our town on their way to vegas and back.
    Last edited by Eagle87Tango; 09-20-2008, 12:51 AM.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • #2
    Guns R Tools
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1782

    I think that most important thing is getting a license from federal goverment.
    FFL XX

    That's all I know about the gun store business.
    'Cuz big holes are easier to see.

    You can correct my spelling and grammar error anytime.
    I welcome it. How else would I learn.

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    • #3
      FortCourageArmory
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 1001

      You will need:
      Money
      An FFL from the ATF
      Money
      A storefront
      Money
      Local permits
      Money
      State of CA permits and licenses
      Money
      and did I mention you'd need money?

      Other than that...it's a cinch.
      sigpicNRA Life Member
      Tim & the gang
      Fort Courage Armory
      1518-B Los Angeles Avenue
      Simi Valley, CA 93065
      (805) 526-6563
      www.fortcouragearmory.com

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      • #4
        Eagle87Tango
        Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 394

        Well, money...I could get a loan for that. Hm...I would want my own small building though I think. I wouldn't want a little hole in the wall in some half-abandoned shopping mall.
        Si vis pacem, para bellum

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        • #5
          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          Call the ATF and order the FFL ap. It's pretty invasive. It's 3k just to process the ap. Not to mention the insurance ,might have to carry a bond. The paperwork alone is amazing,but of course on the back of every ATF form there is a "Paperwork Reduction Act " notice. Also you will give up some rights. I have a 03 C&R and they can show up anytime to go through my boundbook. It sounds cool but HUGE headache.
          There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
          The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
          The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
          The others, well......they just never learn.

          "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
          Patrick Henry.

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          • #6
            freakshow10mm
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 3061

            No, if you have an 03 they can meet you. They do not conduct inspections on premises with a C&R.

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            • #7
              OCArmory
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 1321

              It's $200 for an 01 FFL. In california there is no bond needed. You need your
              local business liscence
              resaler liscence
              any county permits for firearms sales
              if selling used stuff a state and local second hand dealers permit
              certificate of eligibility from the DOJ
              and your FFL
              It's a lot of paperwork and you have to have your location first since most of these permits are address specific. Definitely doable though. Unlike an 03 FFL your premise is open to inspection during normal business hours.

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              • #8
                OCArmory
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1321

                You can PM me and I'll let you know how much to plan for liability insurance. The easiest way is through Brownwell's or the NRA

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                • #9
                  OCArmory
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1321

                  Oh yeah and the loan part isn't as easy as you would think. I looked at several still haven't found a bank willing to do firearms retail.

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                  • #10
                    Eagle87Tango
                    Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 394

                    OCArmory, PM sent
                    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                    • #11
                      Eagle87Tango
                      Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 394

                      Well, without fail the freeway going through barstow is jam packed every friday and sunday evening. Some of these people go to vegas every weekend, it's crazy.
                      Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                      • #12
                        FortCourageArmory
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1001

                        I think the idead of setting up shop in a town that people drive through may be a little unworkable for a business that can't deliver it's core product for 10 days from purchase/registration. You need to know if the everyday population can sustain your business over the long haul. If not, you'll go quickly out of business. No one wants to see that. While it's true that I-15 is jammed evey weekendf with traffic coming and going to Las Vegas, how many will stop by your store to shop on their way? Gun buyers aren't tourists making quick impulse buys like at a 7-Eleven. You should probably do a little more research into location before committing finances to this project.
                        sigpicNRA Life Member
                        Tim & the gang
                        Fort Courage Armory
                        1518-B Los Angeles Avenue
                        Simi Valley, CA 93065
                        (805) 526-6563
                        www.fortcouragearmory.com

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                        • #13
                          Eagle87Tango
                          Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 394

                          Originally posted by FortCourageArmory
                          You should probably do a little more research into location before committing finances to this project.

                          Agreed. I'll be researching this topic. If anyone can suggest an area that's got gun friendly folks in need of a good store not too far out of the way of everyone else, let me know!
                          Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                          • #14
                            what2be
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 597

                            Originally posted by FortCourageArmory
                            I think the idead of setting up shop in a town that people drive through may be a little unworkable for a business that can't deliver it's core product for 10 days from purchase/registration. You need to know if the everyday population can sustain your business over the long haul. If not, you'll go quickly out of business. No one wants to see that. While it's true that I-15 is jammed evey weekendf with traffic coming and going to Las Vegas, how many will stop by your store to shop on their way? Gun buyers aren't tourists making quick impulse buys like at a 7-Eleven. You should probably do a little more research into location before committing finances to this project.
                            Agree 100%. Sounds like a horrible idea tbh.

                            Think of this, 90% of the traffic on the weekends are tourists making last minute plans to go to vegas for the weekend. It could be MONTHS or WEEKS before they come back. Who the hell wants to buy a gun, then have to figure out the logistics of when they can come back to pick it up?
                            No thanks.

                            Your local market is what you have to cater to. They will be the ones that will make or break your store.

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