Would this be considered a Locked case?

[sully007]

Right; this question, in brief form, is in the things we know and things we do not know sticky in the How CA Laws Affect me forum.

Here's my reasoning:

Transport outside the 'unloaded, locked case' umbrella could be charged as a misdemeanor. That has legal costs, life costs, and possibly as much as a year in prison.

A good lawyer, for example, might charge you $400 for an hour of work on your criminal defense case, and one hour is not the likely total. (Fact based - I would guess 'a couple thousand' as the low end, but I can't really tell.)

A really good, arguably secure case might be a Pelican, at about $111 retail.

Would you spend $111 to avoid a prosecution and the possibility of a year in jail?

See also http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=22

Thank you for your input.


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[Librarian]

Isn't there a requirement that the gun cannot be accessed once in the locked container, and that leaving gaps of a few inches could invalidate that. (As told to me by a LEO) For example, with this case, I could easily get a finger or two in the case and pull the trigger, even when locked.

No requirement in law; I think that would go to arguing about "secure".

[erik_26]

Isn't there a requirement that the gun cannot be accessed once in the locked container, and that leaving gaps of a few inches could invalidate that. (As told to me by a LEO) For example, with this case, I could easily get a finger or two in the case and pull the trigger, even when locked.

See anything Librarian has to say as he is 99.99999999% right on anything California Firearms Laws.


With that said, if you are in fear of your life, you could theoretically access/load/use your firearm to stop a threat.

Of course, when seconds count, your firearm is minutes from ready.

Likely you would be a victim before your firearm was rendered useful.

[Sizzlechest]

There is no arguing with the cop. They can ticket you and tell you to discuss it with DA/judge. Im sure theres some case law ( no pun intended) regarding your situations. It might not be considered fully locked and secured if it can be opened even if its an inch or two. There are some zipped bags out there that have a hole for the lock and once locked its completely tight.

[kaligaran]

I think the OP could get a small luggage lock and just run it through the zippers themselves (where the current cords are attached - not to the cords) and that would be locked IMO.

I've done this plenty of times with backpacks. Pretty sure a cop would consider that locked but as everyone says, still a guess.

[71MUSTY]

I think the OP could get a small luggage lock and just run it through the zippers themselves (where the current cords are attached - not to the cords) and that would be locked IMO.

I've done this plenty of times with backpacks. Pretty sure a cop would consider that locked but as everyone says, still a guess.

Basically putting the lock threw the slots the key rings are in now.

I agree. Locking the two zippers together closes the gap to nil and totally invalidates my earlier concern. I also do this.

[kaligaran]

Basically putting the lock threw the slots the key rings are in now.

I agree. Locking the two zippers together closes the gap to nil and totally invalidates my earlier concern. I also do this.

Yeah that's exactly what I meant, thank you!

Words are not working for me tonight.

[hambam105]

Too many deputy district attorneys with higher political office aspirations while being addicted to lib cool-aid. Why chance it? I say no.

[BANG BANG]

I think the OP could get a small luggage lock and just run it through the zippers themselves (where the current cords are attached - not to the cords) and that would be locked IMO.

I've done this plenty of times with backpacks. Pretty sure a cop would consider that locked but as everyone says, still a guess.

I use a small lock that has a braided wire versus a shackle

it fits in the opening of the zippers