Why is a nonfunctional gun still considered a gun?

[madoka]

In researching the Glock cutaway models, I found that you have to DROS them like it's a real gun even though it's designed to be nonfunctional and for educational use only. Furthermore, many companies will refuse to sell to CA because of the nonfunctional 15 round cutaway mag.

Are they doing this out of an abundance of caution, or is there some law that states that guns that are designed to be nonfunctional are supposed to be treated as the real thing?

[mikenewgun87]

Liberals confuse shapes...

If it looks like a hammer, but its actually a pop tart...its a hammer

[Mitch]

Liberals had nothing to do with the designation of a handgun frame or a long gun receiver as a regulated firearm.

[Decoligny]

Haven't worked with the cutaway firearms, but looking at the Glock website, it looks as if they built a gun on a Glock frame, and the pieces added to the frame have sections removed so you can see how the gun functions mechanically.

If this is indeed the case, then all the parts that have the cutaway portions would be able to be replaced with non-cutaway parts that can be purchased without going through an FFL.

So, if they sold the cutaway without DROS, without having to go through an FFL, you could build your own functional gun using the frame.

I also noticed that Glock only sells the cutaway firearms to LEA's.

[Condorguns]

Probably falls under the same rules that got the formed then filled 80% lowers.

[MrSam]

I'm sure the "genius" who decided we should DROS demonstration-purpose firearms felt that one could be made into a functional firearm.

[ke6guj]

Haven't worked with the cutaway firearms, but looking at the Glock website, it looks as if they built a gun on a Glock frame, and the pieces added to the frame have sections removed so you can see how the gun functions mechanically.

If this is indeed the case, then all the parts that have the cutaway portions would be able to be replaced with non-cutaway parts that can be purchased without going through an FFL.

So, if they sold the cutaway without DROS, without having to go through an FFL, you could build your own functional gun using the frame.

I also noticed that Glock only sells the cutaway firearms to LEA's.

exactly, I could take my cutaway G19 and just swap out the cutaway upper for another G19 upper and it would function 100%. the cutouts in the lower do not affect function. they would allow dirt to get inside, but do not affect function or safety as far as I can see.

[CK_32]

Like said above because of the possibility that's why you have to DROS it.

But IIRC if you cement and PERMANENTLY disable a firearm you could have someone designate it as a non OP firearm. I saw it on a episode of Pawn Stars. There is specific things that need to be done to "permanently" disable a firearm. The cut always, Apparently are not "permanent"

[bohoki]

because that frame could probably fire a shot if other non regulated parts were replaced

[Ibefuz]

Isnt a broken down non functioning car you havent driven in years sittiing in your back yard still a car?

[Carsgunsandchics]

[MrSam]

Isnt a broken down non functioning car you havent driven in years sittiing in your back yard still a car?

Yes but prior to it's non functioning condition, it was fully functional and was designed and built to function like a car. Unlike "cutaway" and "demonstration" guns which are designed and built to be used for practice and demonstration, not as functional firearms

[ke6guj]

Yes but prior to it's non functioning condition, it was fully functional and was designed and built to function like a car. Unlike "cutaway" and "demonstration" guns which are designed and built to be used for practice and demonstration, not as functional firearms

but those firearms are completely built up as a functional firearm before they are set aside to have portions cutaway. they don't cutaway enough of the receiver to "demil" it to ATF non-gun configuration. The receiver is still functional on a Glock cutaway gun and is therefore considered a firearm even if there is a hole in the barrel and slide.

[MrSam]

but those firearms are completely built up as a functional firearm before they are set aside to have portions cutaway. they don't cutaway enough of the receiver to "demil" it to ATF non-gun configuration. The receiver is still functional on a Glock cutaway gun and is therefore considered a firearm even if there is a hole in the barrel and slide.

Oh trust me I know. I just didn't think that the previous analogy about cars applied. In both situations the product (gun and car) were built for different purposes. The car tone driven and operated like any other car, and the cutaway firearm to be used for demonstration purposes unlike a firearm

[Zekethedog]

Did you find a vendor that would sell you one? I spoke with a rep and was told those guns were not available to the general public.