What do you drink while cleaning your guns?

[EatsEverything]

After reading the lead poisoning thread, nothing.

[Merc1138]

^^^ Yea, maybe next time clarify that this thread was for responsible adults who can enjoy a drink while cleaning guns. Not for raging alcoholics or overzealous safety Nazis.

Nahh, because that'll just attract even more of 'em.

Some people(apparently a large number of people on calguns) are incapable of drinking an "adult beverage" simply for the taste, without getting hammered in the process(although I do have to wonder just how many of them wouldn't mind jumping behind the wheel of a car after taking some medications). The concept of taking half an hour to drink a couple shots of scotch in a glass is just totally foreign to these people. It's either "alcohol is some evil boogey man" or "can't have just one!". For those who simply don't drink, or know that they don't have the self control, great. Unfortunately... they love preaching it to everyone else given the chance(and whether you want to hear it or not). I got over the idea of drinking booze just for the sake of getting drunk, a long time ago.

The issue I have(and was pointed out by others) is that cleaning guns is a nasty mess. I wouldn't want little bits of solvent and lead coming off the end of a brush, floating around in the air, and landing in my glass. I wouldn't want to be eating or drinking anything while working on my car, I wouldn't want to do it while changing a seal on the toilet. For one, it's just gross. Most importantly, why would I want to risk ingesting that crap? Like I said earlier, even if you are using some non toxic enviro safe green gnome CLP, you're still knocking loose powder and lead residue that is going to end up on your hands, on a glass, or in a glass even if you're just drinking iced tea. Even with a sippy-tip like a camelbak that would keep crap out of my drink, it's still potentially going to get on the container where my mouth goes. There are people who claim to use CLP as hand lotion and hoppes as aftershave, those people are idiots.

[phdo]

WATER!! Alcohol after.

[philobeddoe]

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[pterrell]

^^^ Yea, maybe next time clarify that this thread was for responsible adults who can enjoy a drink while cleaning guns. Not for raging alcoholics or overzealous safety Nazis.

I don't think most of the responses against drinking while cleaning are overzealous. It's like drinking and driving. Is one beer going to impair you to the point where you can't safely operate a vehicle? Most adult men over 6' would say no. Does that mean that you should though?

What happens to many people when they make exceptions for safety regarding alcohol is that they get complacent. "Last weekend I only have one and I was perfectly fine. I should be good tonight with two." So on and so fourth. It has the potential to cause a snowball effect. As far as no ammo in the same room as cleaning and some of the more extreme safety precautions, more power to them. I think that it when it comes to implementing controls for your own safety, there is no upper limit. I think that upper limit is no alcohol while handing firearms for any reason. Would I like a beer while I'm scrubbing down a BCG? Absolutely, but I know it will be waiting for me 20 mins from now when I'm finished.

Consequently, I will not go shooting with anyone who was, is or indending to drink alcohol shortly before or during shooting. Absolutely will not.

As for a personal story, I was over at a friend's house one Friday night and we were all drinking, playing beer pong and having a good old time. Conversation shifted over to guns eventually and my friend went to show off his brand new Glock. I urged him not to since we all were well on our way to not standing without support, but he pulled it out of the safe anyway. He passed it to me without checking it so I cleared it out. Guess what? Fully loaded and chambered. I asked him if he had any idea wtf he was doing and he didn't realize it was loaded. Thankfully, the event ended in him being called a dumbass, but it could have gone much much different.

Moral of the story, guns and alcohol should NEVER mix. Period.

[drifts1]

I've personally never heard of an actual incident of someone getting sick because they had a few beers while cleaning. I'm much more worried about food/drink that are served in public restaunts. Besides, the alcohol kills any toxic contamination on contact, right?!?

[pterrell]

I've personally never heard of an actual incident of someone getting sick because they had a few beers while cleaning. I'm much more worried about food/drink that are served in public restaunts. Besides, the alcohol kills any toxic contamination on contact, right?!?

Alcohol kills germs/bacteria, not harmful chemicals

[Merc1138]

I've personally never heard of an actual incident of someone getting sick because they had a few beers while cleaning. I'm much more worried about food/drink that are served in public restaunts. Besides, the alcohol kills any toxic contamination on contact, right?!?

Uhh yeah.. because the alcohol in a beer is going to "kill" the lead that has been dissolved by a solvent while cleaning your guns

And getting back to what I'm assuming is a response to my comment about changing the seal on a toilet, even if the alcohol content did kill anything that fell into my drink(again, assuming the issue is something that can be killed by alcohol), why would I want to ingest it anyway? That also doesn't do anything for the crap that might land on the outside of the container.... unless you drink your beer by just tilting your head back and hovering the end of the bottle over your mouth.

[drifts1]

Alcohol kills germs/bacteria, not harmful chemicals

I guess you missed the sarcasm hint "?!?"

[drifts1]

I don't think most of the responses against drinking while cleaning are overzealous. It's like drinking and driving. Is one beer going to impair you to the point where you can't safely operate a vehicle? Most adult men over 6' would say no. Does that mean that you should though?

What happens to many people when they make exceptions for safety regarding alcohol is that they get complacent. "Last weekend I only have one and I was perfectly fine. I should be good tonight with two." So on and so fourth. It has the potential to cause a snowball effect. As far as no ammo in the same room as cleaning and some of the more extreme safety precautions, more power to them. I think that it when it comes to implementing controls for your own safety, there is no upper limit. I think that upper limit is no alcohol while handing firearms for any reason. Would I like a beer while I'm scrubbing down a BCG? Absolutely, but I know it will be waiting for me 20 mins from now when I'm finished.

Consequently, I will not go shooting with anyone who was, is or indending to drink alcohol shortly before or during shooting. Absolutely will not.

As for a personal story, I was over at a friend's house one Friday night and we were all drinking, playing beer pong and having a good old time. Conversation shifted over to guns eventually and my friend went to show off his brand new Glock. I urged him not to since we all were well on our way to not standing without support, but he pulled it out of the safe anyway. He passed it to me without checking it so I cleared it out. Guess what? Fully loaded and chambered. I asked him if he had any idea wtf he was doing and he didn't realize it was loaded. Thankfully, the event ended in him being called a dumbass, but it could have gone much much different.

Moral of the story, guns and alcohol should NEVER mix. Period.

Neither of your examples meet my idea of a responsible adult. I think we are on completely different pages.

[pterrell]

I guess you missed the sarcasm hint "?!?"

Sarcasm rarely translates through text. Ask my wife

In that case, I redact my assumption that you are a window licker

Neither of your examples meet my idea of a responsible adult. I think we are on completely different pages.

I would sincerely hope so. There are many out there who would disagree with both of us though. Many men think it's responsible as long as they think "I'm good" and will drive anyway. That's how DUIs happen. Why would mishandling firearms when someone is "good" be any different?

[drifts1]

LOL. Have a good night pterrell.

[pterrell]

LOL. Have a good night pterrell.

If only. Probably 3 more hours left in my shift.

[Motosurgeon]

In soviet Russia gun cleans you!

Ok seriously now, we have already heard both sides on consumption of alcohol and the simultaneous handling of unloaded firearms. The consensus seems to be that care must be taken to avoid contamination of anything on the bench that may be consumed later. I don't find this to be an issue myself because I always clean my barrels at the range while they are warm so I don't stink up the garage. When cleaning I don't use more than a lint free towel, q tips, and grease.

[mikemi]

Nothing. I can wait until I'm finished.

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