NiB vs TiN vs NP3 what's best?

[Whiskey-Tango]

Heard and read that all are very good and self lubricating but looking for some feedback from people that have experience with all coatings, any advise on what is more durable/self lubricating/easier to maintain? All seem to be around the same price.

NiB: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkal..._Boron_Coating

TiN: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_nitride

NP3: http://robarguns.com/custom-firearm-finishes/np3/

[shafferds]

Nib can flake if not applied right. Tin is a metal treatment and tough as nails. Dont know too much about np3.

[hermosabeach]

Electroless nickel is electroless nickel.

Coke a Pepsi are both colas


Nickel boron and np3 are both electro less nickel

I am not sure why no one uses TiN except for cosmetic reasons.


NP3/ NiB seem to be the best for lubricity


Maintenance will keep a parkerized finish running just as well

[RobertMW]

I am not sure why no one uses TiN except for cosmetic reasons.

What? People don't want all their guns looking like this?

[Jimi Jah]

After replacing several cut AR bolt cam's, I switched to a TiN cam bolt. They are holding up very well, no cuts, notches or wear.

I'm sold.

[hermosabeach]

The AR seems to have a nice balance.

The barrel lasts 5,000-10,000 rounds.
The bolt should last at least as long.


When I looked at the place in San Diego that does TiN coatings
(Yes a Lord of War AK would be fun)

The price of TiN is as much as a complete bolt.




Glock barrels are already diamond hard from the tennifer finish.

So if you want to spend an extra $200 to make a barrel pimpin pretty

Go for it.

[hermosabeach]

http://titaniumgun.com/uploads/OrderForm2014rev3.pdf

[shafferds]

If anyone needs tin coating I can get it done with quick turn around time and very reasonable prices. Pm me

[sonofeugene]

Anyone ever use tungsten disulphide?

[pc_load_letter]

Some good info here...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=902135

From that thread, I greatly respect 9mmepiphany opinions.

Best of luck on your choice!

[Jimi Jah]

Parallax Tactical sells TiN coated BCG's. They had them on sale at the Del Mar gun show last March for $150.

[pc_load_letter]

Parallax Tactical sells TiN coated BCG's. They had them on sale at the Del Mar gun show last March for $150.

Those might have been blemished bcgs.

They have blems on their website for $99. That's for the carrier only. You will need your own bolt.

MP

[Whiskey-Tango]

Good info thanks I'll look into the TiN

[Gunsmith Dan]

Just remember that TiN (that is Titanium Nitride not the element Tin) is applied using special equipment at high temps. That means only higher quality steels can be coated because Aluminum will actually start to deform and melt.

This is something that no gun shop that I know of does in house, it is all done at coaters that specialize in it.

TiN is harder, more chemical resistant but has less lubricity than NiB and is more abrasive on contact points that are not TiN coated than a standard steel BCG. It has a gold color BUT TiCN (Titanium Carbon Nitride) has similar specs but is dark grey in color.

NiB has more lubricity and is less abrasive on contact points that are not coated than standard steel BCG, but it is very sensitive to any chemical that removes copper ( the coating will eventually peel or flake off). NiB comes in satin silver color finish and using a blackening agent is not permanent, will wear off easy and reduce the lubricity.

NP3 is a trademarked version of NiB.



So all in all for the cost of the BCG getting coated with above you can coat the ENTIRE AR in one color (including the BCG) in Cerakote which performs very well and when lightly oiled is extremely slick and is as easy to clean as just wiping off the residue (plus you have 90 colors to choose from).

[Whiskey-Tango]

Just remember that TiN (that is Titanium Nitride not the element Tin) is applied using special equipment at high temps. That means only higher quality steels can be coated because Aluminum will actually start to deform and melt.

This is something that no gun shop that I know of does in house, it is all done at coaters that specialize in it.

TiN is harder, more chemical resistant but has less lubricity than NiB and is more abrasive on contact points that are not TiN coated than a standard steel BCG. It has a gold color BUT TiCN (Titanium Carbon Nitride) has similar specs but is dark grey in color.

NiB has more lubricity and is less abrasive on contact points that are not coated than standard steel BCG, but it is very sensitive to any chemical that removes copper ( the coating will eventually peel or flake off). NiB comes in satin silver color finish and using a blackening agent is not permanent, will wear off easy and reduce the lubricity.

NP3 is a trademarked version of NiB.



So all in all for the cost of the BCG getting coated with above you can coat the ENTIRE AR in one color (including the BCG) in Cerakote which performs very well and when lightly oiled is extremely slick and is as easy to clean as just wiping off the residue (plus you have 90 colors to choose from).

Good info, so what would be best for a barrel, NiB or TiN?