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  • DVSmith
    Cantankerous old coot
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2007
    • 3702

    HSC to become FSC

    I got a call from CA DOJ to check on my contact information prior to sending out the new FSC program updates. So I thought I would post this in case any of you have not seen it yet:

  • #2
    Dano3467
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2013
    • 7381

    So my new HSC that was good for 5yrs is crap paper after the 1st of the year ?

    OMG they can't stop making up new junk, glad our tax dollars are not wasted in any way shape or form....

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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by Dano3467
      So my new HSC that was good for 5yrs is crap paper after the 1st of the year ?
      no, its still good for your handgun purchases until it expires.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        DVSmith
        Cantankerous old coot
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2007
        • 3702

        ETA: LOL - ke6guj beat me to it...

        Originally posted by Dano3467
        So my new HSC that was good for 5yrs is crap paper after the 1st of the year ?

        OMG they can't stop making up new junk, glad our tax dollars are not wasted in any way shape or form....
        Kinda sorta but not exactly:

        Holders of current HSCs may continue to use their certificate to
        purchase handguns only after December 31, 2014. However, effective January 1, 2015, an FSC will be required to purchase long-guns. Once obtained by a purchaser, an FSC can be used to purchase/acquire all lawful firearm types.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19871

          Yep
          The original one lasted forever- they cancelled that sucker


          A fee is not a tax....


          Thanks for sharing.
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            krwada
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2013
            • 1457

            Chip-chip-chipping away!!!

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            • #7
              bigbearbear
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 5378

              How does it work if a person only wants to buy a long gun and not hand guns? Does he/she still need to do the handgun safety demonstration stuff?

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              • #8
                Peter.Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 7351

                Hm. Does my CCW still cover the new requirement?
                NRA Life Member

                No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  Victor Cachat
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1546

                  Because those long guns are so incredibly different from handguns.
                  For one thing, they are LONG.
                  Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

                  The most effective and pervasive enemy of American freedoms today is the Legacy Media. Defeat them first.

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                  • #10
                    CBruce
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1993

                    Originally posted by Victor Cachat
                    Because those long guns are so incredibly different from handguns.
                    For one thing, they are LONG.
                    I can still stick the end in my mouth, right?

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                    • #11
                      dustoff31
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8209

                      Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                      Hm. Does my CCW still cover the new requirement?
                      To expand on this, do all the current HSC exemptions apply to the FSC?
                      "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30242

                        Originally posted by dustoff31
                        To expand on this, do all the current HSC exemptions apply to the FSC?
                        Yes and they added a few new exemptions.
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                        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                        • #13
                          DVSmith
                          Cantankerous old coot
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3702

                          Originally posted by CBruce
                          I can still stick the end in my mouth, right?
                          I don't think California law allows that, so you better not.

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                          • #14
                            dustoff31
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8209

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Yes.
                            Good. Thanks!
                            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                            • #15
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30242

                              The laws that go into effect 01-01-2015...

                              Penal Code 31615
                              (a) A person shall not do either of the following:
                              (1) Purchase or receive any firearm, except an antique firearm, without a valid firearm safety certificate, except that in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
                              (2) Sell, deliver, loan, or transfer any firearm, except an antique firearm, to any person who does not have a valid firearm safety certificate, except that in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
                              (b) Any person who violates subdivision (a) is guilty of a misdemeanor.
                              (c) The provisions of this section are cumulative, and shall not be construed as restricting the application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable in different ways by different provisions of this code shall not be punished under more than one provision.
                              (d) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.

                              Penal Code 31700
                              (a) The following persons, properly identified, are exempted from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615:
                              (1) Any active or honorably retired peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2.
                              (2) Any active or honorably retired federal officer or law enforcement agent.
                              (3) Any reserve peace officer, as defined in Section 832.6.
                              (4) Any person who has successfully completed the course of training specified in Section 832.
                              (5) A firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, who is acting in the course and scope of that person's activities as a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive.
                              (6) A federally licensed collector who is acquiring or being loaned a firearm that is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the department pursuant to Section 26710.
                              (7) A person to whom a firearm is being returned, where the person receiving the firearm is the owner of the firearm.
                              (8) A family member of a peace officer or deputy sheriff from a local agency who receives a firearm pursuant to Section 50081 of the Government Code.
                              (9) Any individual who has a valid concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of Division 5.
                              (10) An active or honorably retired member of the United States Armed Forces, the National Guard, the Air National Guard, or the active reserve components of the United States, where individuals in those organizations are properly identified. For purposes of this section, proper identification includes the Armed Forces Identification Card or other written documentation certifying that the individual is an active or honorably retired member.
                              (11) Any person who is authorized to carry loaded firearms pursuant to Section 26025 or 26030.
                              (12) Persons who are the holders of a special weapons permit issued by the department pursuant to Section 32650 or 33300, pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 18900) of Chapter 1 of Division 5 of Title 2, or pursuant to Article 4 (commencing with Section 32700) of Chapter 6 of this division.
                              (b) The following persons who take title or possession of a firearm by operation of law in a representative capacity, until or unless they transfer title ownership of the firearm to themselves in a personal capacity, are exempted from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615:
                              (1) The executor or administrator of an estate.
                              (2) A secured creditor or an agent or employee thereof when the firearms are possessed as collateral for, or as a result of, or an agent or employee thereof when the firearms are possessed as collateral for, or as a result of, a default under a security agreement under the Commercial Code.
                              (3) A levying officer, as defined in Section 481.140, 511.060, or 680.260 of the Code of Civil Procedure.
                              (4) A receiver performing the functions of a receiver.
                              (5) A trustee in bankruptcy performing the duties of a trustee.
                              (6) An assignee for the benefit of creditors performing the functions of an assignee.
                              (c) A person, validly identified, who has been issued a valid hunting license that is unexpired or that was issued for the hunting season immediately preceding the calendar year in which the person takes title of possession of a firearm is exempt from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615, except as to handguns.
                              (d) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.
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                              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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