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  • mag360
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    • Jun 2009
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    Possible to have nfa full auto historically in CA?

    Has it ever been possible to have transferred or built a full auto in this state post 1934? What happened to those that were registered?
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    Peter.Steele
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    • Oct 2010
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    I've always read that in 1986 when the registry closed, there were more NFA items in California than in any other state in the Union. Legal owners kept them, but they would have had to be sold out of state or surrendered if the owner either died or didn't want them / needed money.
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      HappyCamper781
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Oct 2012
      • 1856

      Some moved out of state, a lot are still here in private ownership, they come out for special events like the Turner's outdoor fair.

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        Capybara
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        • Feb 2012
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        There were 1919s, M2s, Chauchauts and several others at the SBHA&B Show last weekend, but no telling if they were demilled or actually still able to fire.
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          HappyCamper781
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          • Oct 2012
          • 1856

          I believe a majority are now owned by companies doing business with the movie / television industry. Some are trusts with limited membership. You can't inherit these weapons according to california law, so....

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            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by mag360
            Has it ever been possible to have transferred or built a full auto in this state post 1934? What happened to those that were registered?
            Yes.

            CA DOJ Dangerous Weapons Permits didn't get implemented until the late-1960s/early-1970s.

            So, prior to the late-1960s, just needed to comply with Federal requirements for obtaining/owning a MG in CA.

            However...
            After implementation of the Dangerous Weapons Permits, people who previously owned MGs had to acquire Dangerous Weapons Permits to maintain ownership in CA.

            In addition...
            It wasn't until the 1980s, in which good cause for issuance of a Dangerous Weapons Permit for a MG was limited to two good causes.

            So, prior to the 1980s, you could obtain a Dangerous Weapons for a MG with the good cause of "collector".

            Dangerous Weapons Permits obtained prior to the limiting of good causes were allowed to be maintained by the current permit holder. When the original permit holder sold the MG or because deceased, the new owner had to obtain a Dangerous Weapons Permit under one of the two limited good causes.
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              mag360
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              • Jun 2009
              • 5198

              Did the good cause change from collector to "substantial commercial need" with roberti roos in 89? Or was it its own bill?
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                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
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                Originally posted by HappyCamper781
                I believe a majority are now owned by companies doing business with the movie / television industry. Some are trusts with limited membership. You can't inherit these weapons according to california law, so....
                Really? What law are you referring too? or, is this just more of your usual FUD? CA AW laws clearly only apply to SEMI AUTO firearms.

                AFAIK, there are still several ways to inherit most NFA items in CA.
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                  HappyCamper781
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                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1856

                  You can inherit them, but as you mentioned earlier, the NEW OWNER needs acquire a DWP and/or show need? Isn't that pretty much de facto prvention of inheritance??!

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                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    Originally posted by HappyCamper781
                    You can inherit them, but as you mentioned earlier, the NEW OWNER needs acquire a DWP and/or show need? Isn't that pretty much de facto prvention of inheritance??!
                    No. You said that it was not legal to inherit them period. Now you're saying it is legal and giving one of several ways that it could be handled. Of course, an easier way would be to inherit them and store them out of state after jumping through the right hoops. Or, one could get a FFL, SOT and DWP and keep them in CA. Or, one could inherit them and arrange for their sale. Or............, let's just say that their are possibly some other legal and creative ways to keep them. The simple fact is that they are LEGAL TO INHERIT. They may not be easy to keep after one inherits them but, that wasn't what you said at all. Also, for some NFA weapons like C&R SBSs, C&R SBRs, many AOWs, hand grenades, rocket launchers, artillery and other DDs it's easy to keep them in CA.
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                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      In adherence to Federal laws/regulations...
                      You can also inherit them and store them in another State (one which is NFA friendly).
                      You just can't possess them in CA.
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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30242

                        Originally posted by mag360
                        Did the good cause change from collector to "substantial commercial need" with roberti roos in 89? Or was it its own bill?
                        EDIT: (looked it up)
                        The change happened in 1988.
                        When they added the requirement to obtain a Dangerous Weapons Permit for a SBR/SBS to legally possess a SBR/SBS in CA.
                        Last edited by Quiet; 07-21-2014, 11:57 PM.
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