Gun Safe = no cable locks?

[toadman]

I'm picking up a SP-01 this Saturday & I was just on the DOJ website for approved safety devices. Am I reading this right it says you are NOT required a
safety device(gun lock) if you can demonstrate ownership of a qualifying gun safe. http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe.php
So if you show a receipt or affidavit of proof of an approved safe you don't
have to keep buying a new cable lock every time you buy a gun?

[Matt C]

Correct, but Federal Law requires you to buy a lock (up to 30 days) before any handgun purchase.

[CHS]

Correct, but Federal Law requires you to buy a lock (up to 30 days) before any handgun purchase.

To expand on this, keep in mind that there is no law saying you have to KEEP the lock. On your way to the gun store, drop by your local walmart, buy a lock, bring the lock and receipt with you as proof. Once you have picked up your gun, simply return the lock at walmart for your money back.

[eltee]

There is an affidavit you can fill out at the dealer to affirm that you own an approved gunsafe.

[Matt C]

There is an affidavit you can fill out at the dealer to affirm that you own an approved gunsafe.

But federal Law does not recognize it.

[Librarian]

I'm picking up a SP-01 this Saturday & I was just on the DOJ website for approved safety devices. Am I reading this right it says you are NOT required a
safety device(gun lock) if you can demonstrate ownership of a qualifying gun safe. http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe.php
So if you show a receipt or affidavit of proof of an approved safe you don't
have to keep buying a new cable lock every time you buy a gun?

The safe works for long guns, but Fed law interferes for handguns.

The law actually allows gun safes, but BATFE has no regs for it, so most FFLs won't allow it, either.

Therefore, you get stuck with buying a lock, and following CA rules on what locks are acceptable, and 'within 30 days'.

And bdsmchs is right, no law requires you to keep the lock.

[RossRinSD]

Luckily, the few pistols I bought came with locks. When I've bought rifles and shotguns, some FFL's let me sign off as having a safe, but other's just made me buy the lock.

[CSACANNONEER]

Correct, but Federal Law requires you to buy a lock (up to 30 days) before any handgun purchase.

I agree that Fedral laws says that a lock must be present at the time of purchase of a handgun but, I don't believe Federal law requires the lock to be purchased. It can be provided by the manufacturer or given to you by your dealer. Also, the 30 day thing is/was always a California thing. Bottom line, Federal law requires that when you pick up a handgun, a lock must accompany it. California law says that you either must have a safe or you must PURCHASE a lock within the 30 days prior to receiving a handgun. Both laws must be followed so, if you fill out a safe affidavit, you can use the lock that comes with many new guns, be given a lock or buy a lock. If you don't have a safe, you must purchase a lock regardless of how many locks the manufacturer has already provided. Simple, isn't it?

[toadman]

Is there any law that says the lock has to come from a licensed dealer? Can I
sell you one of my locks, then when I need one you can sell it back to me. Same lock, back & forth at a $.01 per transaction.

[Librarian]

Is there any law that says the lock has to come from a licensed dealer? Can I
sell you one of my locks, then when I need one you can sell it back to me. Same lock, back & forth at a $.01 per transaction.

So long as the lock is on the Roster of Firearm Safety Devices Certified for Sale that should be OK. (if it comes from a licensed dealer, it will be on the Roster.) Whether the FFL will go along is a different question.

The DOJ website for it says

The safety device requirement does not apply to the following:

* Persons who can demonstrate the purchase of a DOJ-approved safety device in the 30 days prior to taking possession of the firearm by presenting the device to the firearms dealer and providing the firearms dealer with a receipt showing the purchase date and model name of the device.

[RossRinSD]

I've wondered about the selling yourself or your buddy a lock. There is a quick and dirty invoice template on MS Word. I've used it for work to write up receipts when our normal receipts didn't cover all the bases...

[eccvets]

it sucks but if you cant afford the 5 dollar cable lock, you can't afford a gun ha.

[RossRinSD]

the money isn't the point. Its a BS law that a bunch of liberal's passed to make lawful gun ownership more difficult and more expensive.

By refusing to play their little game it makes me feel better. Besides, do you really think that gun lock is preventing bad guys from killing you or I??

[Bird of Fire]

1. Buy lock at dealer when picking up handgun.
2. Walk out to vehicle, put handgun in trunk of vehicle.
3. Go back into gun shop.
4. Return lock, as it doesn't match the color of your shoes.
5. ?????
6. Profit.

[Matt C]

1. Buy lock at dealer when picking up handgun.
2. Walk out to vehicle, put handgun in trunk of vehicle.
3. Go back into gun shop.
4. Return lock, as it doesn't match the color of your shoes.
5. ?????
6. Profit.

I just gift it back to the gun shop I use for non EBR PPTs, they only charge $6 for the lock and it's a cool shop.