Can a SSE backfire in court?

[MikeSmith]

So I was at a gunshop the other day and asked if he did 'Single Shot Exemptions'. He said he did not, and brought up a story of how a guy shot an intruder with 3 bullets with a gun that happened to be registered as an SSE. He said he's going through a big ordeal in court now for it. Has anyone ever heard a story like this? Was it in the news? It's possible that he was just trying to sell his own guns, but due to the grey area of the law I wouldn't doubt it. It seems that these loop holes are being put off as perfectly legal but when it comes down to getting caught with them you are the test subject.

What do you guys think?

[xxINKxx]

I've always had this in the back of my mind when thinking about buying a SSE handgun. Like the part where the gun is supposed to be registered as a single shot. In the courts eyes won't they see it the same way?

[Dano3467]

Well Idk about this situation but my FFl who I've known for many many yrs, was very cautious about doing this, then after long deliberation on the matter he is now doing these, he's very cautious about such things.

Judging from this, and knowing him, it's prolly not going to be a problem.

Will I be doing SSE.......YUUP.

[MikeSmith]

Well SSE is attracting a lot of business...don't you think that could be a deciding factor for a lot of FFLs? The real question is...can anyone debunk this story of the guy in court who put 3 rounds in an intruder with a SSE gun?

[hermosabeach]

An FFL I know was against the entire SSE process.

He kept an open mind and several people educated him.
He spend a lot of time with the CA DOJ and they confirmed the rules.


He now offered SSE.






I would guess the case is either bogus or fud.


Gunsmiths make modifications all the time. Unless one modification is faulty due to poor workman ship, liability is minimum.




If you follow the 4 fundamental safety rules are followed, people stay safe.

Now if you break the rules-
Don't check that the gun is unloaded
Pull the trigger when not on target
Cover body parts with the muzzle.

Stupid things can happen.

[Jcastaneda1105]

Well SSE is attracting a lot of business...don't you think that could be a deciding factor for a lot of FFLs? The real question is...can anyone debunk this story of the guy in court who put 3 rounds in an intruder with a SSE gun?

I would agree with you, and add the counter argument, can anyone prove the story?

[mlevans66]

Either way if you shoot someone in CA in that situation you are going to have issues. Most PDs take your weapon and may even destroy it rather it be SSE or not. This happened to a worker at Iron Sights for a issue with a break in at Carlsbad. The courts will use ANYTHING to get you locked up even if you where bloody, holding a smart gun in a Obama T-shirt.

[phase1]

fud

[Oceanbob]

Your FFL is lying.

We keep a close watch on every case and we would certainly know about this one.

Sadly, a lot of these FFls are low information mouth breathers.

Never take anything they say serious.

[riderr]

So I was at a gunshop the other day and asked if he did 'Single Shot Exemptions'. He said he did not, and brought up a story of how a guy shot an intruder with 3 bullets with a gun that happened to be registered as an SSE. He said he's going through a big ordeal in court now for it. Has anyone ever heard a story like this? Was it in the news? It's possible that he was just trying to sell his own guns, but due to the grey area of the law I wouldn't doubt it. It seems that these loop holes are being put off as perfectly legal but when it comes down to getting caught with them you are the test subject.

What do you guys think?

Did he get in trouble specifically due to using SSE gun? Or was he in trouble due to shooting someone?

[MikeSmith]

Did he get in trouble specifically due to using SSE gun? Or was he in trouble due to shooting someone?

The FFL made it sound like he was in trouble for firing 3 rounds into the intruder with an SSE gun. I don't doubt that this story is false at all. But I want to make sure.

[MikeSmith]

Either way if you shoot someone in CA in that situation you are going to have issues. Most PDs take your weapon and may even destroy it rather it be SSE or not. This happened to a worker at Iron Sights for a issue with a break in at Carlsbad. The courts will use ANYTHING to get you locked up even if you where bloody, holding a smart gun in a Obama T-shirt.

Guilty until proven innocent right? lol or was that supposed to be the other way around. Maybe they mixed it up...

[skyhanger00]

Read up on the Gary Fadden Incident. Guy got dragged through the court system simply because he defended his fiance and himself with a NFA select fire weapon.

Yes you can CCW and defend yourself with a SSE weapon, but it will make your lawyer's job easier if you used something from the "safe gun" list. Heck, maybe it's the minor detail that convinces a feinstein-wannabe DA to drop charges.

[stix213]

Either the FFL can give you the name of the case, or it is just some BS he heard from a guy who heard from another guy who made it up.

An FFL that doesn't do SSE's trying to discourage you from going to another store to buy a firearm via SSE.... Who'd have thought?

[stix213]

Read up on the Gary Fadden Incident. Guy got dragged through the court system simply because he defended his fiance and himself with a NFA select fire weapon.

Yes you can CCW and defend yourself with a SSE weapon, but it will make your lawyer's job easier if you used something from the "safe gun" list. Heck, maybe it's the minor detail that convinces a feinstein-wannabe DA to drop charges.

Defending yourself with a personally owned machine gun isn't going to be treated the same as an SSE handgun. That's just ridiculous.