ATF Releases 2013 Firearms Trace Data

[farmerjoe]

http://www.fedagent.com/component/tags/tag/844-tracing-firearms

California- Only

http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/statistics/TraceData/TraceData_US/TraceData2013/143905-caatfwebsite13.pdf

[Tasty]

Interesting. Thanks for the links.

[dyson]

556 and 223 dont even crack the top 10 of calibers found in these tracings.....what does that say?

[farmerjoe]

556 and 223 dont even crack the top 10 of calibers found in these tracings.....what does that say?

And I'd imagine "7.62" includes 7.62X39 and 51

[dyson]

And I'd imagine "7.62" includes 7.62X39 and 51

Still doesnt cover the common ar15

[farmerjoe]

Still doesnt cover the common ar15

it appears in the few states that i looked at, most of the rifles must be .22's

[steve91104]

It appears CA leads the nation in adoption of .40s&w, interesting

[shmeare]

I wonder why!? Although is seems to always be in stock at the wally worlds....

It appears CA leads the nation in adoption of .40s&w, interesting

[Ford8N]

Funny, they won't name the race of the scum bag criminals involved with gun crime.

Not "politically correct", I guess.

[morfeeis]

Funny, they won't name the race of the scum bag criminals involved with gun crime.

Not "politically correct", I guess.

Wouldn't make a difference unless you wanted it to.......

[halifax]

1000 .25 caliber firearms recovered in CA...wow. I didn't think there were that many left.

[The Gleam]

A faster more direct link for all states would be here:

http://www.atf.gov/content/About/statistics/firearms-trace-data-2013

[Russ661]

Of all the crimes that resulted in a firearm trace/recovery only 588 were homicides. That's 588 out of 32,343 traces/recoveries or a little less than 2%, 1.8% to be exact. Criminal possession of a weapon was the highest at 11,924 or almost 37%. Traffic offenses has almost as many as homicides. It would be interesting to know how many firearms were actually used in the commission of a homicide vs. how many were recovered (588).

[OttoLoader]

This report is misleading.
Missing information:
No definitions of weapon types
No description of methodology
No definition of trace
No definition of crime
Graphic is misleading to the casual reader (someone not closely following 2nd Amendment issues)
Symbol for machinegun is a M-16 but anti’s like to call AR-15 assault weapons and the chart used a symbol that looks like an AR.
Rifle symbol looks like a bolt gun, just like dear old grandpas.
Why not break down long guns by action type at least rifle manual, semi auto full auto?
(Of course the data would need to allow breakdown. If the data cant’ then the report should point that out in methodology section and symbols should be clarified).
My understanding is that trace number totals can be run up by some bureaucrat just running a "what if" trace. No actual crimes committed. Then including those trace runs in the total. Did this report screen out the what-ifs?
In this report most crimes are apparently for possession. So this supports the argument that the antis put unconstitutional laws on the books and then by the new definition/law what was legal before is now illegal. How many traces in this report were for possession by convicted felon or how many were possession violation of some state law (CA NY NJ etc.) related banned item that is completely legal in most other states (AZ NV OR etc.?). This report can be used to confirm that the approach used by the antis is to incrementally move to total ban by (State Fed local laws) to ultimately define all private possession as a crime
Yet , even with these vague report characteristics, and possibly inflated totals, this report confirms that actual crime is down. and,
This report actually upon close scrutiny can be used to support the argument to repeal gun control laws.

[Tasty]

It appears CA leads the nation in adoption of .40s&w, interesting

I wonder why!? Although is seems to always be in stock at the wally worlds....

Maybe since we're generally limited to 10 rounds, people go with .40 because it's bigger? One of the arguing points for 9mm is a larger capacity, but taking that out of the equation is just one less pro on the 9mm side and one less con on the .40 side. Hell, that was my argument until i did some homework for myself.