Options for securing safes in house

[VictorFranko]

I'm not quite sure Egyptians were advanced enough to manufacture PVC, but I get your gist...

Smart ***, LOL

[russ69]

Buy a good safe, it will last a lifetime. You need something that is at least 800 pounds. That will take two guys to move it or really good moving equipment.

[VictorFranko]

If your bedroom is carpeted, the holes will barely show.

Not if it's Berber carpet!

Do not attempt to drill through Berber, it will pull a whole row out and wind around the drill, leaving a naked stripe across the room all the way to the other wall!

If it is Berber, cut a small hole in the carpet with a razor blade (where you need the hole) before drilling.

[MisplacedTexan]

Do yourself a favor - ask the landlord.

Most landlord love when a tenant wants to 'customize' their rental as it means you will live there longer = more profit for the landlord as they won't have to 'turn' the rental as much.

As much as I personally like the in between stud safes - I would advise against it. where's the electrical? Plumbing? cable? some stuff in between the studs might not even be to your unit. Are you really good with drywall and texture repair? Matching faded paint? a 16" by 4' drywall repair will tend to stick out if not done VERY well. Trust me, your landlord will notice if they are worth their salt.

1/2 lag screw holes aren't as easy to conceal as nail holes for picture frames. Small pin holes can be dabbed with drywall mud and they disappear - probbably don't even have to paint. A 1/2" hole on the other hand? the first application of mud will shrink & you (or landlord) will have to re-apply & paint. If you are going to drill into the wall to secure - again check w/ the landlord. They might even get their handyman to do it FOR you (so they know it's done right & it keeps you there longer).

Whatever you do - I would recommend getting it in WRITING.

[BrokerB]

Just drill in bolts. Incredibly easy to repair when you move. Dont ask the landlord either.

[axhoaxho]

Like folks say, bolting it down is the way to go.

On the other hand, I always wonder if any alarm companies offer a wireless tilt-sensor that can be placed inside the safe. When the tilt-sensor is triggered the house alarm will go off automatically.

Though my safe is bolted down, such feature would add another peace-of-mind to me... Does such feature exist?

[Squidward]

Like folks say, bolting it down is the way to go.

On the other hand, I always wonder if any alarm companies offer a wireless tilt-sensor that can be placed inside the safe. When the tilt-sensor is triggered the house alarm will go off automatically.

Though my safe is bolted down, such feature would add another peace-of-mind to me... Does such feature exist?

Alarm companies have wireless motion sensors. Install it facing the safe, which is what I did.

[JDay]

Like folks say, bolting it down is the way to go.

On the other hand, I always wonder if any alarm companies offer a wireless tilt-sensor that can be placed inside the safe. When the tilt-sensor is triggered the house alarm will go off automatically.

Though my safe is bolted down, such feature would add another peace-of-mind to me... Does such feature exist?

If someone gets into your house without setting off the alarm you need a better system. In addition to door/window sensors and motion detectors you need window break sensors. One of those sensors covers about 20 feet. The sensors that are installed on each door/window only detect if it is opened.

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[RookieShooter]

Yeah. At least then he can a souvenir video of someone pushing his storage container out of his house.

With my security camera, I can remotely monitor my property on my smart phone or alarm me via email or text message whenever any motion is detected.

[bksa]

Listen to this guy, or pay the cost for any and all repairs your landlord will deduct from your deposit. This applies even for installation security cameras. Think about it from their perspective, how would you like people started trying to modify your property while borrowing it?

Also, your landlord will most likely reject anything that is not done professionally.

Do yourself a favor - ask the landlord.

Most landlord love when a tenant wants to 'customize' their rental as it means you will live there longer = more profit for the landlord as they won't have to 'turn' the rental as much.

As much as I personally like the in between stud safes - I would advise against it. where's the electrical? Plumbing? cable? some stuff in between the studs might not even be to your unit. Are you really good with drywall and texture repair? Matching faded paint? a 16" by 4' drywall repair will tend to stick out if not done VERY well. Trust me, your landlord will notice if they are worth their salt.

1/2 lag screw holes aren't as easy to conceal as nail holes for picture frames. Small pin holes can be dabbed with drywall mud and they disappear - probbably don't even have to paint. A 1/2" hole on the other hand? the first application of mud will shrink & you (or landlord) will have to re-apply & paint. If you are going to drill into the wall to secure - again check w/ the landlord. They might even get their handyman to do it FOR you (so they know it's done right & it keeps you there longer).

Whatever you do - I would recommend getting it in WRITING.

[not-fishing]

They won't carry it, they'll lay it on it's back and slide it down the stairs.

A few pieces of PVC pipe under the safe (like the Egyptians did to move massive stones) works like a champ too across flat floors.

About a decade & half ago I moved a door sized cut out of a concrete wall 2 foot thick 5 ton block of concrete with a pry bar 2 feet until I got it on a pair of steel angles as rails and was able to move it much easier.

You'd be surprised how heavy a block simple tools can move.

I'd get a much bigger safe and bolt it in the garage.

[MisplacedTexan]

Also, your landlord will most likely reject anything that is not done professionally.

I can only speak for myself but:

When I have tenants ask me for stuff - I bend over backwards to try to accommodate. If not asked up front & I find out about it later....... well do you think they will cut you a break?

If asked, I normally only charge minimal deduction if any at all.

If I'm NOT asked - I'm under no obligation to save the tenant any of their deposit back. In those instances - I won't shop for the best rate in repair - I'll go with one that will please me.

Even IF the landlord does not do semiannual inspection (most will if no maintenance issues to resolve..... and if they do fix that leaky faucet - they will also do an unwritten inspection) - they will know where your bed was, where your dresser was/ whether or not you had a safe. Holes in the carpet? Easy to document before and after condition. Have you priced carpet recently? Holes in carpet is NOT normal wear & tear to be depreciated.

Good luck!

[Victor Cachat]

I would love to have a tenant install a wall safe (provided they leave it when they move).

[Rosereader]

Get a block of concrete and set it in the bottom. You can add a lot of weight that way, and keep it from being walked off with. Fit a piece of velvet over it to protect the butts of your rifles and presto! Set down and you can pull it back out when you want to move it, reducing weight. It's what I did!

[highpower790]

Buy a heavy safe and weigh down with firearms and install alarm system on home as others may have mentioned.