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  • jgraham7897
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 682

    Safe Affidavit

    So I am getting ready to go to my LGS to pick up my lower that I bought when I noticed they charged me $7 for a gun lock. I called them and asked if I could get my money back if I bring in a safe affidavit. They told me that they don't take the affidavit and all guns that leave the shop require a lock. Is this an option for guns shops?
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    Idid a dros 2 weeks ago safe affidavit ok and last week did another have to buy a lock safe affidavit no longer allowed according to pdguns

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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44094

      It could be their in house policy. If it is, there's not much you can do about it except not shop there anymore and let them know the reason why. I'm sure the money they made off that $7 lock will offset the potential profit they will be loosing from the lack of your repeat business. Again, after you get your lower, let them know that you won't be setting foot inside their shop again and will spread the word that you don't like their policies.
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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2006
        • 44094

        Originally posted by edgerly779
        Idid a dros 2 weeks ago safe affidavit ok and last week did another have to buy a lock safe affidavit no longer allowed according to pdguns
        Could they provide proof? It's been about two weeks since I picked up a firearm from a FFL and the safe affidavit worked fine then.
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        • #5
          jgraham7897
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 682

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          It could be their in house policy. If it is, there's not much you can do about it except not shop there anymore and let them know the reason why. I'm sure the money they made off that $7 lock will offset the potential profit they will be loosing from the lack of your repeat business. Again, after you get your lower, let them know that you won't be setting foot inside their shop again and will spread the word that you don't like their policies.
          It just hurts do that. This is the best shop within 40 miles or so.

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2006
            • 44094

            Originally posted by jgraham7897
            It just hurts do that. This is the best shop within 40 miles or so.
            Then make the conscious choice to live with their in house policy. It's your decision and money.
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            • #7
              sl0re10
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7242

              Originally posted by jgraham7897
              So I am getting ready to go to my LGS to pick up my lower that I bought when I noticed they charged me $7 for a gun lock. I called them and asked if I could get my money back if I bring in a safe affidavit. They told me that they don't take the affidavit and all guns that leave the shop require a lock. Is this an option for guns shops?
              The last one I bough; the FFL said I needed to leave with a lock but if I brought my own and left him a copy the receipt that would meet the requirement as far as he was concerned.

              So my take away; his pov as an FFL was 'yes' there was an actual requirement... despite him not trying to sell me the lock (I had plenty of time.. a whole 10 days... to get my own lock on amazon). I'll add; I didn't 'feel' any sales-ness. Zero push or guiding me to buying the lock from him.
              Last edited by sl0re10; 06-10-2014, 10:52 AM.

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              • #8
                IntoForever
                CGSSA Associate
                • Sep 2010
                • 3891

                Buy a lock, walk out with your new toy, come back in and get a refund for the lock.
                With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44094

                  Originally posted by sl0re10
                  The last one I bough; the FFL said I needed to leave with a lock but if I brought my own and left him a copy the receipt that would meet the requirement as far as he was concerned.

                  So my take away; his pov as an FFL was 'yes' there was an actual requirement... despite him not trying to sell me the lock (I had plenty of time.. a whole 10 days... to get my own lock on amazon). I'll add; I didn't 'feel' any sales-ness. Zero push or guiding me to buying the lock from him.
                  For handguns, Federal law requires that it leave the shop with a lock. No receipt is required. For state law, either a safe affidavit or a lock with a receipt dated within the last 30 days is required. So, a safe affidavit and a lock without a receipt will satisfy both Federal and state laws. However, many FFLs simply are not bright enough to comprehend this and, instead simplify it so that a lock has to be purchased within 30 days period. That's the easiest way to satisfy both Federal and state law and the simplest for them to understand.

                  For non handguns, a safe affidavit or a lock purchased within the last 30 days is all that's required.
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                  • #10
                    balmo
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1684

                    Last time I DROS'ed a long gun (lower), my lgs just told me to take note of the make and model of my safe come time for me to pick it up. Didn't require a lock as long as I have a safe.

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                    • #11
                      jgraham7897
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 682

                      So I just got home with my lower. Their policy is with lowers it can be made into a pistol so they are covering their butts because they have no control over how I am going to configure it. With how things are done here in CA I can't blame them.

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44094

                        Originally posted by jgraham7897
                        So I just got home with my lower. Their policy is with lowers it can be made into a pistol so they are covering their butts because they have no control over how I am going to configure it. With how things are done here in CA I can't blame them.
                        Then a safe affidavit and a lock without a receipt would have satisfied both state and Federal requirements. There was no legal reason to sell you a lock except for their story policy.
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                        • #13
                          six seven tango
                          CGSSA Associate
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1725

                          Originally posted by jgraham7897
                          So I just got home with my lower. Their policy is with lowers it can be made into a pistol so they are covering their butts because they have no control over how I am going to configure it. With how things are done here in CA I can't blame them.
                          Wasn't the lower DROS'd/registered as a long gun? How is it their responsibility if you make it into an illegally configured gun?

                          I could buy a complete AR, go home and change the stock/buffer tube for a pistol tube and put a short barreled upper on it and have a pistol. Illegal as hell, but I could do it. Should they make me buy a lock because of that possibility? They're just padding their profit margin by requiring the lock purchase.
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                          • #14
                            zoid52
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 783

                            Someone ought to LOCK these IDIOTS who make these moronic laws out of the USA!
                            CALIFORNIA-IF THERES NOT A LAW AGAINST IT THERES A TAX ON IT

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