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  • furyous68
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1878

    Seattle College Shooter studied Columbine:



    Maybe the media will start changing how they cover these stories. Granted, the cat's out of the bag & there is already an abundance of information from past shootings that a future nut can glean from. But maybe they'll stop glorifying the shooters to a point where they become media stars.
    95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence
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    smith and wesson
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1877

    "Sources said Ybarra made a private purchase of a shotgun two years go"

    If he ppt he'd still have to have a background check.

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    • #3
      Victor Cachat
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 1546

      It is funny how the media has no problem engaging in character assassination until the character is a high profile, multiple murderer that may inspire copy cats.

      They could save lives by calling them loathsome slime and attacking every little thing about them they can.
      Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

      The most effective and pervasive enemy of American freedoms today is the Legacy Media. Defeat them first.

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      • #4
        furyous68
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1878

        Originally posted by smith and wesson
        "Sources said Ybarra made a private purchase of a shotgun two years go"

        If he ppt he'd still have to have a background check.
        Not in Washington:
        A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.
        [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
        Which is sad, because he was involuntarily admitted for psychiatric evaluation in 2010 & 2012. He was a prohibited person, but then that would have only worked from him getting a firearm, not using anything else. I know how people feel about background checks. But I for one would like some way of making sure these psychos don't get their hands on guns. There should be a way to do a background check on someone that doesn't let the FEDs know what we're checking for. People's backgrounds are checked all the time for employment reasons, why can't there be something that basically says the person does or does not have any felonies, restraining orders, or 5150's on their record. No details, just something that says "Hey, this person has issues that restrict him from certain jobs, owning firearms, or being close to schools & children."
        No background check required.
        Last edited by furyous68; 06-06-2014, 6:38 PM.
        95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence

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        • #5
          colossians323
          Crusader for the truth!
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 21637

          Originally posted by smith and wesson
          "Sources said Ybarra made a private purchase of a shotgun two years go"

          If he ppt he'd still have to have a background check.
          Not in washington or Oregon, you can just hand it over, as well as in nevada and arizona, and probably about 30 or so other states
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          • #6
            furyous68
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 1878

            Originally posted by Victor Cachat
            It is funny how the media has no problem engaging in character assassination until the character is a high profile, multiple murderer that may inspire copy cats.

            They could save lives by calling them loathsome slime and attacking every little thing about them they can.
            No, instead they vilify the person or business who sold them the evil gun that took over his mind & commanded him to shoot people.
            95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence

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            • #7
              SmallShark
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1395

              gun free zone.

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              • #8
                Scratch705
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2009
                • 12537

                good thing he was a poor study then.

                i believe columbine had a higher fatality rate than this guy.
                Originally posted by leelaw
                Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                • #9
                  CAguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 855

                  Originally posted by Scratch705
                  good thing he was a poor study then.

                  i believe columbine had a higher fatality rate than this guy.
                  Luckily the security guard was there and moved in.

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                  • #10
                    Scratch705
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 12537

                    Originally posted by CAguy
                    Luckily the security guard was there and moved in.
                    well that too.
                    Originally posted by leelaw
                    Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                    Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                    Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                    Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                    Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                    • #11
                      SILENT GUNMAN
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1468

                      If anything this incident proves our point. An armed good guy is what it takes to stop an armed bad guy. Sure the guard only had pepper spray. Fact of the matter is, that's a defensive weapon! The problem is he had to wait for the guy to reload in order to get close enough to employ the tool he had to defend his life and the lives of those around him. If the guard had been trained and armed with a firearm there's a good chance that he could have stopped the attack sooner and from a safer distance. The guard was very lucky that the bad guy had run the shotgun dry before reloading. If he had been topping off and still had a round in the chamber I don't think the guard would still be with us today. He may not have been able to get close enough to spray the guy.
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                      • #12
                        smith and wesson
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1877

                        Originally posted by colossians323
                        Not in washington or Oregon, you can just hand it over, as well as in nevada and arizona, and probably about 30 or so other states
                        Oh that's right. I had forgot that some states do cash and carry.

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                        • #13
                          SuperSet
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 9048

                          If he was involuntarily committed and knew he was prohibited, he just put the nail in the coffin for cash and carry.
                          Also, it was not a security guard who stopped him. It was an ordinary student. If it were not for his courage, it would have been much worse. Does it matter if he didn't have a gun to stop him?

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                          • #14
                            dustoff31
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8209

                            Wait, you mean a known nutball that wasn't dealt with properly went over the edge and committed some atrocity?

                            Gee... that's different.
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                            • #15
                              SuperSet
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 9048

                              Guessing folks also forgot that 2 years ago, another person with a history of mental illness walked into a Seattle cafe and killed 5 before offing himself.
                              Bring back involuntary commitment.

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