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[8541marine]

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[DMotivate]

I would say that a number of people would be interested. But if taking cash to play then it would be any other business... Permits & insurance?

[73Jim]

That sounds awesome and in a normal state it might be feasible. I'm not a lawyer so take my words as barking from the peanut gallery.

Myself and a couple of friends have discussed, on and off, about purchasing some land as a private "man" park. Shooting area, motocross track and whatever. One of the group is a lawyer and another has a lawyer in the family and they both painted a grim picture about the liability we would be exposing ourselves to. Talks of forming an LLC, monthly meetings, meeting minutes dispensed to the entire group, warning signs, fences and on and on and on...

Then we talked to an insurance agent...make sure you are sitting on your wallet during that call. I think they were actually attempting to suck my wallet through the phone...

Sounds fun but be careful to protect you and yours, especially if you are charging admission.

[8541marine]

Ive looked into the insurance from a company called Teague....and yes...it is very expensive. Maybe have people make "donations" along with a Release of Liability form? IDK...Im just kind of guessing here. Its prob not worth the money that would be involved in making it work.
Thanks for the help

[8541marine]

73Jim

I hear you, and thanks for your input. It looks as if this will prob be a "no go". I was just kind of thinking, "a lot of people here in So Cal are always asking/looking for ranges out to 1k or beyond & I need a little extra cash....maybe I could make this work"
I wasn't trying to make a fortune or anything, maybe just 200-300 bucks extra a month.
I think its prob just too much of a hassle.
Thanks everyone for your input

[73Jim]

I'm in San Diego and I WISH there was such a place but if you get one knucklehead that injures someone else, on your property, with your consent...it would get ugly.

Best wishes!

[bishop2queen's6]

Even though you're trying to benefit the local gun community by so graciously sharing the awesome private range you have, but it will take one bad apple to ruin it all for everyone.

You're going to have to jump through a lot of legal hoops to protect yourself from that bad apple.

I recommend just keeping it open to family and friends, and have the general public out of it.

[Twystd1]

Pm me.

I don't give a hoot about insurance. I simply want a place to go with very few people.
I bring my own EVERYTHING.
Including like minded people.
I usually bring between 6 and 16 people to shoot.

Check my itrader. You will probably surmise I am a true gun enthusiast.

Not a mall ninja. (except in OT )

-T

[Kappy]

Wishing I was a lot farther south.


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[Merc1138]

Even though you're trying to benefit the local gun community by so graciously sharing the awesome private range you have, but it will take one bad apple to ruin it all for everyone.

You're going to have to jump through a lot of legal hoops to protect yourself from that bad apple.

I recommend just keeping it open to family and friends, and have the general public out of it.

Agreed.

Unless the OP plans on going the full on business route with insurance, lawyers, etc. it's too easy to get bit in the *** by fire, injury, people trashing the place, taxes, and who knows what else.

It's a cool idea, but it makes more sense to avoid the possibility of life-wrecking liability issues. Keep it to family and friends.

[8541marine]

Thanks for all the input guys. Im gonna have to take your guys' advice on this, unless I can find some investors that wouldn't mind putting some money up to go "full business" with this. I will just keep it for friends and family. Too bad one potential person out there ruins it for all of us. Everyone is so "sue happy" now a days....jeesh.

Thanks again everyone

[RandyD]

I am an attorney, and my first thoughts are once the county knows you are operating a business, they will want permits and their fair share of your profits, otherwise known as taxes. You could have liability for injuries, fires that result from a bullet striking the metal.

I like your idea and I would be interested in paying to shoot on your land. I recommend you research this issue some more. As a start look into how landowners charge an access fee to hunters.

[Call_me_Tom]

I've researched this as a friend of mine wants to buy land & open a range; in a different state though.

You really need to research the permits, noise ordinances & EPA regulations for lead. Lead removal is expensive but must be done annually & one noise complaint WILL shut you down.

Going private non profit is the easiest range to open. Everything else I've researched is just to expensive.

[Leethe4th]

Any insight/advice is appreciated.

Beyond any business requirements and liability insurance, shooting ranges have to be permitted by the State of CA to operate. Let's assume your land is at least 7 miles from the nearest house/road in all directions so the idiot who fires a 300Win Mag at 45 degrees up won't hit anyone. The first step is an enviromental impact report, which can be anywhere from $5,000 to $50,000 (if your land is a watershed.) even you if operate as a non profit. And hope they don't discover a new breed of Kangaroo Rat. Then you need a plan for lead recovery, usually a contract with a range lead miner, and a schedule. Then because it will open to people, you need to put in bathrooms. You really need friends with deep pockets to get started properly. And if you go without any of that, and a neighbor/tourist complains, it's over with.

[CSACANNONEER]

I agree with Randy. Once the county get wind of it, you'll be shut down and possible fined. It's a nice thought but, I would be extremely careful.