Riverside County Weapons cache. .hmmmm

[Condorguns]

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2014/05/31/palm-desert-hit-run-dui-weapons-coachella/9802047/

Yeah they are POS, and probably prohibited, but charging with SBR? Maybe I am missing something here.

[AreWeFree]

I see the picture, but I don't see the SBR... it's great that the law as written doesn't matter anymore.

[Baeleron]

The SBR charge obviously won't stick, but if that mag isn't a 10/30 then that charge probably will.

[emptybottle151]

The SBR charge obviously won't stick, but if that mag isn't a 10/30 then that charge probably will.

For what? Possession of a standard capacity magazine isn't a crime within itself.

[MmmSti]

It appears to be a 40rd PMAG. If it were a 30rd he could be okay. Nothing against using rebuild kits to repair previously owned high cap magazines.

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[Sleighter]

Yeah they are POS, and probably prohibited, but charging with SBR? Maybe I am missing something here.

I see the picture, but I don't see the SBR... it's great that the law as written doesn't matter anymore.

It would be an SBR if the "pistol" was built on a long gun receiver. It all depends on how the lower was initially DROS'ed. Since they never show the mag release side, we are left to guess, but my bet is on the fact that they are running that "pistol"/sbr without a bullet button and the standard cap mags.

Tack on a standard cap mag, no bullet button,a pistol grip, and a long gun receiver and we have ourselves a genuine ca assault weapon.

[Sleighter]

For what? Possession of a standard compactly magazine isn't a crime within itself.

Considering the driver is 23 and PMAGs weren't made before the mag ban...to imagine a situation where he legally acquired that mag is a stretch of the imagination.

This is a case of "play stupid games..."

[Sleighter]

This is the 2nd person to be popped for standard cap mag possession in as many days. I've said it before, and I hope people under 30 are listening. IF you built mags from rebuild kits thinking that you've found a "legal loophole" because possession isn't illegal, you're going to learn a very harsh and expensive lesson if a LEO catches you with those mags.

LEOs don't care about the truth or legal details. It's not their job to sort out whether or not you are guilty. If you are suspicious enough (their judgment) than you will be taking a ride, getting booked and paying for an expensive attorney to sort it out.

[diverwcw]

I'm just wondering what this cache of weapons has to do with the charges they are investigating.

[emptybottle151]

Considering the driver is 23 and PMAGs weren't made before the mag ban

You can replace the magazine body without breaking the law.

It appears to be a 40rd PMAG. If it were a 30rd he could be okay. Nothing against using rebuild kits to repair previously owned high cap magazines.

30/40 possibly, also I believe there were 40rnd AR mags before the ban. I know there were Ruger Mini 14 40rnd mags prior to the ban.

LEOs don't care about the truth or legal details. It's not their job to sort out whether or not you are guilty. If you are suspicious enough (their judgment) than you will be taking a ride, getting booked and paying for an expensive attorney to sort it out.

Then with this logic black people shouldn't be driving nice expensive cars

I'm just wondering what this cache of weapons has to do with the charges they are investigating.

^This^

[Curtis]

The cops can write up anything in their PC book. I know there were several cops that were big on creative use of the PC as well as with the health code to arrest people. The cops aren't responsible for knowing all the laws...its up to the DA to file the formal charges.

[MmmSti]

He could have legally owned a 30rd pre ban AR mag and rebuilt it with a rebuild kit. That is totally lawful.

If he openly admitted he assembled it from a rebuild kit only, he is in trouble.

And if he built that pistol on a lower DROSed as a long gun, he is SOL, IMO. IINAL.

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[Sleighter]

He could have legally owned a 30rd pre ban AR mag and rebuilt it with a rebuild kit. That is totally lawful.

If he openly admitted he assembled it from a rebuild kit only, he is in trouble.

And if he built that pistol on a lower DROSed as a long gun, he is SOL, IMO. IINAL.

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Really? Which is more likely, an 8 year old had a stash of ar mags laying around and he "repaired" them using pmag parts when he got older. OR he bought a rebuild kit of a bunch of PMAGs and put them together.

What do you think a LEO is going to believe? They don't have to PROVE how you got them. The DA does. So as far as the LEO is concerned you're most likely guilty, lets take a ride, and he'll sort out the details later.

What'll most likely happen then is the DA will leverage the mags against you to push for a plea deal. Either way you're taking the hit. The only way out of it is to stay in it for the long haul and pay an attorney a ton of money to fight your entire court case.

Until someone with financial backing by the NRA or CGF is willing to be the test case, the best case scenario is that you'll lose your mags, have an arrest on your record and pay a hefty fine.

[emptybottle151]

Really? Which is more likely, a black man working hard and saving up for an expensive car OR he stole it and took it for a joy ride

Didn't know that we are all guilty till proven innocent.

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