Used gun prices?

[geoint]

I have had 2 guns for sale for almost a month now and still no takers. Lots of crappy trade and lowball offers, and a few guys who acted interested but flaked last minute but no genuinely interested buyers. Do you guys think I am charging too much for these weapons? Here are my listings:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/3038239/austin-texas-handguns-for-sale--selling-sti-spartan-iii

http://www.armslist.com/posts/2913679/austin-texas-rifles-for-sale--s-w-m-p-10---price-dropped-

Im not willing to drop price any lower, if I have to Ill make the necessary changes to the M&P10 (and sell my 20 round pmags here in TX) and try to sell it and the 1911 in CA when I move there later this year.

[Snoopy47]

Posting an item located in TX here at CalGuns likely isn't your ideal target market. The STI can't be shipped to an FFL (it has to be a face to face purchase through an FFL)

Your rifle likely will also need compliance modification to get sold in CA, and your 20 round magazines can't be included.

Other options are more available to locals here in CA.

If you were INSIDE CA you could likely ask for a premium........... Move to CA and raise the prices 40%.

Otherwise the discounted prices have to entice the CA buyer willing to deal with jumping through the hoops to get them in CA legally.

I just don't see a lot of "free state" buyers frequently CalGuns for firearm purchases.

[Merc1138]

Your STI would need to be SSE'd first, adding to the cost.

Your M&P 10 has a multitude of problems wrong with the ad.

I look at the pictures and see an acog. Yet an acog is not included in the price, so why is it in the picture? There is a picture of 15 boxes of ammunition, but they don't come with it, so why is there a picture of them? Does the ammo in the magazine from the top picture come with the rifle for $1250? If not, why is it in the picture? Both pictures of the rifle have a harris bipod with larue mount, yet they aren't included.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

If you want something to sell, not only does it need to be priced decent, but your pictures should be accurate. As simple as it is to find a camera these days, there's no excuse to not have an accurate picture of what it is you're trying to sell. So even if those were old pictures, take new ones without all of the junk that's not included. You offered to send more pictures due to armslist limiting the number of pictures you can include, but the pictures you DID include aren't even representative of what you're selling.

[AreWeFree]

Your STI would need to be SSE'd first, adding to the cost.

Your M&P 10 has a multitude of problems wrong with the ad.

I look at the pictures and see an acog. Yet an acog is not included in the price, so why is it in the picture? There is a picture of 15 boxes of ammunition, but they don't come with it, so why is there a picture of them? Does the ammo in the magazine from the top picture come with the rifle for $1250? If not, why is it in the picture? Both pictures of the rifle have a harris bipod with larue mount, yet they aren't included.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

If you want something to sell, not only does it need to be priced decent, but your pictures should be accurate. As simple as it is to find a camera these days, there's no excuse to not have an accurate picture of what it is you're trying to sell. So even if those were old pictures, take new ones without all of the junk that's not included. You offered to send more pictures due to armslist limiting the number of pictures you can include, but the pictures you DID include aren't even representative of what you're selling.

^Agreed. Either sell the rifle or sell the accessories. Your Ad is very wordy as well. I usually read everything but on that I didn't even bother.

[geoint]

This is all right there in the ad. Not sure how you didn't see it.

OPTIONAL UPGRADES: --- These are NOT included with the $1250 price
Harris Bipod 9-13" LM-S on a LaRue Tactical LT706 QD Swivel Mount Combo. Selling for $175 but if you buy the rifle Ill sell the bipod/mount for $150
ACOG model TA11E-G with the green chevron. Add $900
I also have ammo for sale. 320 rounds of match grade or hunting (soft point) ammo (all still in box) and 250 rounds of M80 ball ammo in a small carrying case. 570 rounds total, asking for $475 but if you buy the rifle Ill give you the ammo for $400
If you want more pictures let me know. armslist limits the amount of pics I can upload but I am happy to email them to anyone who wants them.

and as far as pictures, Armslist only lets you upload 3.

[geoint]

Your STI would need to be SSE'd first, adding to the cost.

Your M&P 10 has a multitude of problems wrong with the ad.

I look at the pictures and see an acog. Yet an acog is not included in the price, so why is it in the picture? There is a picture of 15 boxes of ammunition, but they don't come with it, so why is there a picture of them? Does the ammo in the magazine from the top picture come with the rifle for $1250? If not, why is it in the picture? Both pictures of the rifle have a harris bipod with larue mount, yet they aren't included.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

If you want something to sell, not only does it need to be priced decent, but your pictures should be accurate. As simple as it is to find a camera these days, there's no excuse to not have an accurate picture of what it is you're trying to sell. So even if those were old pictures, take new ones without all of the junk that's not included. You offered to send more pictures due to armslist limiting the number of pictures you can include, but the pictures you DID include aren't even representative of what you're selling.

When I move into the state all my guns are exempt from the roster and SSE I thought?

[dave3223]

I agree with Merc and yes, I do understand your reply to him. However, let me see if I can also help you by expanding on what Merc is saying (which I do believe you already understand however).

The pictures should be of the rifle itself only in the configuration that the selling price is for. Take an additional picture with all of the "extras" in one picture and then post this as well. You say that you only have three pictures to load. Okay, take two of the rifle in different angles and one with all of the extras.

Also, your pictures don't do the rifle justice and need to be taken with a better camera. Your pictures appear grainy and dull. Highlight the pictures and you might get better offers. Not trying to be rude, but it appears that you are trying to show a lot in the picture (of the rifle) but then when a prospective buyer reads your ad, they realize that they are not getting all the things pictured and have to decipher what they are actually getting. That, I believe, is the point that Merc is trying to make.

Sorry, but from how the pictures (of the rifle) and ad are worded, I would not be interested or would actually try to low ball you which is what I suspect others have done. To truly sell your items, the price has to be right, but the set-up of the pictures actually does matter and an accurate description and colorful bright pictures actually helps to make a buyer actually want what you are offering to them. Just a consideration and suggestion.

This is all right there in the ad. Not sure how you didn't see it.

OPTIONAL UPGRADES: --- These are NOT included with the $1250 price
Harris Bipod 9-13" LM-S on a LaRue Tactical LT706 QD Swivel Mount Combo. Selling for $175 but if you buy the rifle Ill sell the bipod/mount for $150
ACOG model TA11E-G with the green chevron. Add $900
I also have ammo for sale. 320 rounds of match grade or hunting (soft point) ammo (all still in box) and 250 rounds of M80 ball ammo in a small carrying case. 570 rounds total, asking for $475 but if you buy the rifle Ill give you the ammo for $400
If you want more pictures let me know. armslist limits the amount of pics I can upload but I am happy to email them to anyone who wants them.

and as far as pictures, Armslist only lets you upload 3.

[BigPimping]

Sell locally and forget shipping to commiefornia.

[Merc1138]

This is all right there in the ad. Not sure how you didn't see it.

I did see it. I saw a rifle listed for a price, a giant wall of text, 3 pictures with a ton of add-ons, and then read the wall of text as a giant disclaimer explaining that nothing in the ad comes with the purchase.

I've sold tons of crap online(not on calguns), and the key? Accurate description and pictures. Yes, I understand that website limits you to 3 images. Yet you included ZERO images of the rifle you're trying to sell for $1250. You included 2 images of a rifle decked out with stuff that isn't included for $1250, and a third picture of a bunch of ammo that isn't included either.

As it is, I can barely see the rifle that is being sold for $1250 in the first picture because you're so far back to include the accessories in the image(that aren't included) the rifle is a black blur. The second pic, not much better. Sure, I can identify the stock and handguard by silhouette, but the pictures are so bad that your rifle could be scratched to hell and I wouldn't be able to tell. This is why you need to include CLEAR pictures of the item you're selling.

BTW. $1250 for a used smith and wesson M&P 10? I can buy one without the magpul stuff brand new for $1324 from Bud's. I can buy one for $1279 brand new from impactguns. For $29 more I can buy brand new, instead of used with accessories I may not want.

You wanted to know why there's no takers? I've given you reasons.

Also, your ad claims the STI is in Texas. That means to sell to someone in CA, they would need to be exempt from the roster(like LEO), or you would need to SSE it(adding to the cost).

Lastly, as I pointed out, you need high quality pictures. People looking at your pictures in 2014, when any modern cellphone can do better than that, think this:

[bsg]

the ad for the M&P 10 is too busy. you've got the ad broken off into four sections, with only a portion of one section devoted to description of rifle as it will be at the asking price. having three sections with pictures, how many of these sections show the rifle in the configuration that the asking price will yield? two of the three sections with pictures are devoted to extras that are available to the buyer at extra cost that is beyond the price of the rifle.

the pictures of the rifle are not good and are of such poor quality that as a potential buyer, i'd pass and go on to the next deal. there is stuff all around the rifle that should serve to reel the buyer in, but is distracting instead. take better pictures, simplify the ad and tighten it up.

Merc1138 makes some valid points and observations (see post #9).

[bsg]

^^^ Killer Bee is on the money; jump on over to Gunbroker Internet Auction Site.

[The Gleam]

Post a query thread on Calguns about your ad... to get more attention and traffic for your ad.

[NOTABIKER]

i have found if you sell a common gun Cheap it will sell. If you have something very special and priced fair it will sell. the rest nope
put a WW 2 Garand up for sale in nice shape for lets say 800 and see how long it takes.