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  • Corsair415
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 451

    No Charges in S.F. Shooting.

    Sucks that the guy is dead, but I think I would have acted in the same manner if it had happened to me. Glad the guy isn't facing charges.http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...258228801.html
  • #2
    jvh22a
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 738

    sucks. wish it was a low life that got shot instead.

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    • #3
      Rusty Scabbard
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 591

      Confused....
      article mentioned that the deceased tried, but failed to enter the wrong apartment. How could this shooting be justified ?

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      • #4
        MiddleKingdom
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 442

        I find it interesting that the TV reporter referred to Kachepha as "the shooter". Yes, he shot Guillermo so he is "the shooter". It's just that the TV story seemed one sided with Guillermo's grieving family demanding justice. Although it was a mistake, Guillermo did enter Kachepha's home at 1:40AM uninvited and without warning.

        I feel for Guillermo's family. I hope they understand that Kachepha had very few options other than to defend himself.
        "Now why doesn't somebody take out a .45 and BANG... settle it?" - Mr. Lee

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        • #5
          flyer898
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2017

          The fact that he was released does not mean he will not be charged. Charging a homicide in a situation where there self-defense will be raised requires some investigation and the 48 hour time-frame from the arrest may not be enough time. The DA is doing the right thing by waiting until they have all the facts they are going to get before making a charging decision. It does not sound like he is a threat to his neighbors or society in general. And that means there is not an overwhelming need to charge the case in the 48 hour time-frame.
          From reading the article and listening to the video it sounds like the decedent was in the shooter's apartment. It is very sad he went inside someone else's apartment and got shot.
          It is a good lesson for any of us that might consider the use of deadly force in our own defense or of our family, about how what we do may be viewed by others, especially family members of the person shot and killed.
          Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
          "One argues to a judge, one does not argue with a judge." Me
          "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
          "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw

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          • #6
            monk
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 4454

            Since he was unable to enter the apartment, did the renter shoot thru the door?


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            • #7
              ramathorn
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1652

              I would blame alcohol and not the shooter or gun in this situation.

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              • #8
                ramathorn
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1652

                Originally posted by monk
                Since he was unable to enter the apartment, did the renter shoot thru the door?
                I was wondering that also...

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                • #9
                  Burbur
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1258

                  I have been that drunk before, got into the wrong trailer out in the desert (exact same make and paint as my friends). Thank god the occupants used judgement to ascertain I was not a threat; too bad this courtesy was not extended here.

                  Perhaps it was, some people are mean drunks.

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                  • #10
                    sunborder
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1212

                    I would blame alcohol and not the shooter or gun in this situation.
                    And I would blame the person who consumed the alcohol to the point where they could no longer take care of themselves.

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                    • #11
                      Snoopy47
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3883

                      Originally posted by sunborder
                      And I would blame the person who consumed the alcohol to the point where they could no longer take care of themselves.
                      Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                      • #12
                        Snoopy47
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3883

                        Originally posted by monk
                        Since he was unable to enter the apartment, did the renter shoot thru the door?
                        We don't have all the information. Either the media doesn't have it, or they don't want us to know it.

                        It does sound like he didn't actually enter the apartment.

                        So that being the case, he was still loud enough to wake the resident of the apartment.

                        So, was it merely the sound of keys trying to unlock the door that woke the resident, or was it the banging on the door and yelling of LET ME IN, LET ME IN YOU *******. How much effort was made to enter the apartment is going to be a big player in how this unfolds.

                        We don't know the context of the fear for this own life the resident was put in. Many of us here might be scared just as much, but thoughtful enough to hold off on the trigger until the door seal is broken.
                        Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                        • #13
                          Felix168
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 501

                          The article said he wasn't able to enter the apartment and got shot, however, the video said he entered the wrong apartment and got shot.

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                          • #14
                            Corsair415
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 451

                            The article says that he accidentally entered the wrong apartment, and that he was unable to enter.

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                            • #15
                              Jimi Jah
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 18757

                              Civil court wrongful death lawsuit, waiting for a fast lawyer.

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