local gunshop just lost my $$$

[Jeepers]

So i just got back from the only local shop in my town (Discreet Defense, red bluff ca) to pick up a AR lower , now i like to support LGS even if it is costing me more $$, but this time i found i will no longer support them due to the owner running his FUD so here is the story ..

i pop in and he is selling a couple of pistols to a gentleman so i walk around looking and see his lowest priced lower is 150 and i think heck its only 50 more then driving to Redding why not so i wait and listen to them talk ....

as he is selling a S&W he starts saying that almost all the smiths and rugers are dropping off the list and cant be sold in CA anymore, so i ask him "cant you do a SSE on them ?" and he answers yes i could but i wont due the the fact i know what you are going to do with the pistol once its out of the shop,return it to S/A from SSE, and i ask whats the problem with that ? and was told that it is illegal

so as all this is going on they have a Slidefire vid running on there big screen so i ask them how they can sell it being that it is considered a illegal in CA under the 12020 PC muti burst trigger and he said its not illegal....

now the old mans asks about building a 1911 and is told its illegal unless you have a manufacturing lic and i had to interject as a homebuilder of over 20 year

then goes on to bad mouth about customers that dont know what they are talking about to the older man he is selling a pistol to , while i am still standing there with 800 bucks burning a hole in my wallet

so long story short Discrete tactical/Discreet Defense in Tehama Co says SSE is illegal to convert back to S/A, Homebuilds are illegal without a manufacturing lic and Slidefires are 100% legal... one less shop i will spend my $$$ at and its sad as i do like to support local business but not ignorant ones with poor customer skills


anyone have a pc saying whether or not converting a SSE to S/A is legal ?
or is it just one of those thing that there is no law against it ?

i will now sit back and watch the cool starry bras and grammar police

[Gutz]

Cool story bro!!! Send me those $800 if you don't want them!!!

[Jeepers]

Cool story bro!!! Send me those $800 if you don't want them!!!

sure what cool stuff you got for them greenbacks ?...lol


just tried to do a yelp review but have to register to leave a review ? not worth it to me ....

[deckhandmike]

Same with my local shop. No SSE "cause it's illegal" but all the tannerite and slidefire stocks you want. Frustrating.

[Jeepers]

Same with my local shop. No SSE "cause it's illegal" but all the tannerite and slidefire stocks you want. Frustrating.

funny thing was he said the SSE was legal, but he won't do it as its illegal to convert it back to S/A as it has to stay the same way as it was sold , and he know ppl will convert them back so he won't sell them guess it would also be illegal to put a 300 blackout upper on one of his 556 lowers

forgot to ask him if he had any tannerite ...lol

[Cannon-Arms]

So i just got back from the only local shop in my town (Discreet Defense, red bluff ca) to pick up a AR lower , now i like to support LGS even if it is costing me more $$, but this time i found i will no longer support them due to the owner running his FUD so here is the story ..

i pop in and he is selling a couple of pistols to a gentleman so i walk around looking and see his lowest priced lower is 150 and i think heck its only 50 more then driving to Redding why not so i wait and listen to them talk ....

as he is selling a S&W he starts saying that almost all the smiths and rugers are dropping off the list and cant be sold in CA anymore, so i ask him "cant you do a SSE on them ?" and he answers yes i could but i wont due the the fact i know what you are going to do with the pistol once its out of the shop,return it to S/A from SSE, and i ask whats the problem with that ? and was told that it is illegal

so as all this is going on they have a Slidefire vid running on there big screen so i ask them how they can sell it being that it is considered a illegal in CA under the 12020 PC muti burst trigger and he said its not illegal....

now the old mans asks about building a 1911 and is told its illegal unless you have a manufacturing lic and i had to interject as a homebuilder of over 20 year

then goes on to bad mouth about customers that dont know what they are talking about to the older man he is selling a pistol to , while i am still standing there with 800 bucks burning a hole in my wallet

so long story short Discrete tactical/Discreet Defense in Tehama Co says SSE is illegal to convert back to S/A, Homebuilds are illegal without a manufacturing lic and Slidefires are 100% legal... one less shop i will spend my $$$ at and its sad as i do like to support local business but not ignorant ones with poor customer skills


anyone have a pc saying whether or not converting a SSE to S/A is legal ?
or is it just one of those thing that there is no law against it ?

i will now sit back and watch the cool starry bras and grammar police

Commas bro., commas.



Oh, and I had to do that, not that I really checked for punctuation, just had to poke!

[Cannon-Arms]

funny thing was he said the SSE was legal, but he won't do it as its illegal to convert it back to S/A as it has to stay the same way as it was sold , and he know ppl will convert them back so he won't sell them guess it would also be illegal to put a 300 blackout upper on one of his 556 lowers

forgot to ask him if he had any tannerite ...lol

Don't mean to hijack, isn't tannerite legal to possess, illegal to use in Cali.? Haven't bothered to check to much and am too lazy to google atm.

[Jeepers]

Don't mean to hijack, isn't tannerite legal to possess, illegal to use in Cali.? Haven't bothered to check to much and am too lazy to google atm.

not a tannerite guy but i think it all has to do with intent , the components are legal on there own , but would rather have some instant cold packs and some aluminum powder around the house than tannerite that is marketed as a explosive

[Cannon-Arms]

not a tannerite guy but i think it all has to do with intent , the components are legal on there own , but would rather have some instant cold packs and some aluminum powder around the house than tannerite that is marketed as a explosive

agreed.

[hermosabeach]

Lots of FFL through SSE was illegal. Then they called and spoke with the DOJ and got clarity as to what is allowed under CA law.

If the dealer does not want to get onto the radar as someone who sells semi auto rifles or SSE, that is their choice.

If they want to stay ignorant of SSE, that too is their choice.

You might call and chat with the owner- explain how you prefer to support local, how many other dealers have called the DOJ to learn about the SSE reg. etc


Some people prefer to remain believing Mis and bad information.

[56huck]

I shop there...to support the only gun store in town. I too disagree with some of his views, but that's never got in the way of a customer/business relationship. He's always treated me very well I probably would not rely on him for legal gun advice

[stitchnicklas]

crappy shops make it easier for the good shops..

[krwada]

From what I can gather:
1. Tannerite is legal to possess. I do not think you can use it legally in California though.
2. Also ... slide fire or bump fire stocks are also legal to purchase and own. You better not have this near any firearms ... nor you better not install the thing however.

At least, this is what it looks like to me ... All this morass of confusing obfuscating California laws!

uuurrrrghh!

[09rubicon]

Same with my local shop. No SSE "cause it's illegal" but all the tannerite and slidefire stocks you want. Frustrating.

Sounds like a BATFE front shop. Just trying to find the "right" mark.

[INRIP]

Sportsmen's Supply in Campbell told a customer the same thing. He wanted an off roster 1911 and they told him that it's illegal and he would be a felon if he went to another shop to SSE it.

They had a nice long scary speech for him, to ensure he wouldn't dare think of doing it.

They then proceeded to try to get him to buy one of their on roster firearms instead of the one he wanted.