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  • Trriemferent
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1252

    Sighting in multiple rifles

    Right now each of my rifles have some sort of optics on them and currently all sighted in at 100 yards but im considering re doing them so each rifle is sighted for a different distance (25, 50, 100 yrd, etc). I mainly shoot on BLM where shooting distances vary every time and I usually take a couple different rifles with me. So is it a good or bad idea to do this. Oppenions?

    Update: the rifles are AR15s (223/556) and used to punch paper and steel. Mostly paper targets
    Last edited by Trriemferent; 04-27-2014, 12:12 AM.
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    kygen
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 3259

    I've heard that once a rifle is sighted for 25 yrds, its also sighted for 100.
    Originally posted by thrillhouse700
    I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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    • #3
      Gene1986
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 835

      ^^^? Ive never heard that? Different rifles for different purposes. What caliber are you talking about?
      For example my 30-06 is set for 200 while my ARs are set up for 50/200. My ak47 at 100 for bullet flight.
      What do you use it for just plinking?

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      • #4
        kygen
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 3259

        My friend in the army mentioned that. So if anyone else has heard that, or knows that isn't the case, please correct me. I don't want to spread fud
        Originally posted by thrillhouse700
        I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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        • #5
          Trriemferent
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 1252

          sorry forgot to mention. These are all ar15 (223/556) and used to punch paper and steel targets.. .original post is updated.

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          • #6
            Timberwolf
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2004
            • 6275

            As a rule of thumb, on high power rifles a 25 yard zero is pretty dead on at 200 and a zero at 33 yards is equal to 100 yards.
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            • #7
              drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2219

              Originally posted by kygen
              I've heard that once a rifle is sighted for 25 yrds, its also sighted for 100.


              Originally posted by kygen
              My friend in the army mentioned that. So if anyone else has heard that, or knows that isn't the case, please correct me. I don't want to spread fud

              Consider it corrected then.

              Most high power rifles, 6mm thru the big bores, with scopes, when sighted point of aim = point of impact @25 yards will put you on at between 200 and 250 yards. (You'll be 2-3 inches high at 100 yards). That is usually sufficient for hunting rifles and most everything else except extreme long range shooting (400 - 1000 yards) or shooting extremely small targets.

              Absolutely nothing wrong with sighting in at any of the distances you listed. If you get your kicks by shooting out the center of a target at 100 yards, then sight in at 100 yards and have a great time. But I think you'll eventually tire of that and want to try different distances. If that's the case, I'd go for the 25 POA POI, and get to know you rifles and loads.

              Have fun.
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              • #8
                kygen
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 3259

                Originally posted by drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                Consider it corrected then.

                Most high power rifles, 6mm thru the big bores, with scopes, when sighted point of aim = point of impact @25 yards will put you on at between 200 and 250 yards. (You'll be 2-3 inches high at 100 yards). That is usually sufficient for hunting rifles and most everything else except extreme long range shooting (400 - 1000 yards) or shooting extremely small targets.

                Absolutely nothing wrong with sighting in at any of the distances you listed. If you get your kicks by shooting out the center of a target at 100 yards, then sight in at 100 yards and have a great time. But I think you'll eventually tire of that and want to try different distances. If that's the case, I'd go for the 25 POA POI, and get to know you rifles and loads.

                Have fun.
                Thank you for the correction. I'll make note of that, and let my friend know
                Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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                • #9
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17640

                  You should shoot each rifle at multiple distances unless you are competing and every fraction of an inch counts.

                  Remember that the bullet travels along a parabolic trajectory (modified due to the air resistance), so it will go up, reach the maximum height, then come down. That's why you always have two points of impact where your aim is dead on - once on the way up, then on the way down. If you know where the top of the trajectory is, then adjust your scope half that distance lower, you'll have a very long "point blank range" - distance where the bullet travel is an inch or two up/down, but you generally aim directly at the target. The point blank range will depend on your caliber and load, but you can look it up and have a pretty good idea.

                  The fun part is knowing your point blank range and holdovers for longer distances, then estimating or measuring distances and adjusting your aim on the fly.
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                  • #10
                    Gene1986
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 835

                    I always thought point of aim at 50 the trajectory comes down at around 200-225 and a 25 zero was around 300?

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                    • #11
                      mikenewgun87
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 7732

                      I'll help you sight in the rifles....if ya let me shoot also!!!

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                      • #12
                        Squidward
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1779

                        There are plenty of bullet flight charts on the 'net. Type in something like, '5.56 bullet flight based on zero' and you can verify it for yourself. IIRC, there are a couple of sites let you enter your data to create a chart based off of your specifics.

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                        • #13
                          Fjold
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 23088

                          Where your bullets cross the point of aim on the way up and on the way down depends on the bullet weight and velocity. You will have to shoot your load in your particular rifle at different ranges to find this out.
                          Frank

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                          • #14
                            ja308
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12660

                            IIRC
                            25 yard zero equals 200 yards for rifles in the 26 to 2800 fps range . Most 30 cal 308, 3006 are in this category.

                            A 5.56 slug at 35 to 3800 fps would give you a 280 yard zero @ 25 yards .

                            Serious rifle shooters should know come ups for each rifle and have those numbers taped on the rifle itself .

                            My 308 from 200 yards is 3,3,4,6 which brings me to 600 yards . The same minutes work for scopes too. If you have 1/4 moa just multiply by 4 and you get the clicks . Duh huh !

                            I would suggest shooters those wanting the skills of a marksman should attend a top rated shooting clinic dealing specifically with rifles .

                            There is a reason why very few people using Angeles range rarely use the convenient steel targets at 2,3,4,5 and 600 yards ! They can't hit any of them ! Even with a concrete branch
                            Last edited by ja308; 04-27-2014, 11:59 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Shoot-it
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 5165


                              this calculator is real accurate I set my 223 varmint rifle dead on at 200 1 1/2 high at 100 yards.My hold over marks are very close got a coyote t 300 yards hit low but had no time to range find.If you think it's easy to range a small animal by eye try it some time.
                              ..
                              I watched a hunting buddy miss 3 coyotes around 150 yards with his 300 mag one day and they were all standing broad side.He shot right over them he kept on forgetting to aim low.
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