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  • rickey65
    Banned
    • Apr 2013
    • 70

    In wretched jam with gun purchase, could use your input.



    Went outside of Calguns and found this on Armslist.
    The seller advertised in California. After many texts back and forth I agreed to send his asking price of 1,400 via Western Union. The man would not answer his phone to verify and solidify some details but I took a shot.
    He now has my 1,400 plus another 500.00 which I sent again via Western Union.
    The texting back and forth is ridiculous. He's coming up with one sad story and excuse after another. This particular gun I assumed was California Compliant. No it isn't - doesn't have the bullet button mag release. He's provided me with a tracking number to a Intraway shipping company based out of the UK. The track reads "on hold, contact seller."
    The shipping address is to Rifle Gear in Fountain Valley California as I provided.. They will return the rifle to the sender if it is non CA compliant.
    Whole thing is a mess, this Moth f uk er has 1,900 dollars of my money. and I'm not getting prompt correspondence. A scale of 1-10 on my anger level is not nearly sufficient to guage how furious I am.
    What to do? I have his name, address and telephone number.

    Thanks for any ideas ya might have to handle this guy.
    Regards
    Pissed Off To No End.
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    Be preparred to lose your money.
    Next time buy within the USA!
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      Merc1138
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19742

      I'd say there's a 99% chance you're completely SOL. The western union thing should have been a huge red flag, and the scammers use it for everything because it's not like you're going to be able to do anything about it after the fact.

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      • #4
        Canucky
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 4265

        Sorry Op but this could be a painful lesson. Sorry for your troubles. Does not pass the smell test. What was the other $500 for?

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        • #5
          Bete Noire
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 578

          Sometimes your business liability or homeowners insurance covers fraud/embezzlement. Check it out.


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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          • #6
            Moemoe1
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1571

            You coulda bought a higher end gun with that much money in a gun store in California lol sorry bud

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            • #7
              rickey65
              Banned
              • Apr 2013
              • 70

              Originally posted by Canucky
              Sorry Op but this could be a painful lesson. Sorry for your troubles. Does not pass the smell test. What was the other $500 for?

              His shipping costs that pile up. 1,400 already in so I thought well, he's been texting me for a month trying to correct the so called "seizure" and I bit the hook. ****.

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              • #8
                rickey65
                Banned
                • Apr 2013
                • 70

                Originally posted by Moemoe1
                You coulda bought a higher end gun with that much money in a gun store in California lol sorry bud
                I know...it's embarrassing - the whole matter.
                Love to visit that apt Clint Eastwood style but that's in a fantasy world.
                The balls on these people dealing with gun buyers that have who knows what - amazing.

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                • #9
                  drifts1
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1443

                  Ouch. $1900 lesson learned. This is gonna sting for awhile.

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                  • #10
                    rickey65
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 70

                    This is the shipping/tracking info he sent me after I paid the 1,400.
                    Geeezus, they are based out of London.

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                    • #11
                      ojisan
                      Agent 86
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 11766

                      Nigerian scammers often use a .UK address.
                      It makes them more believable.

                      Here's a website you will enjoy.

                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        wow, buying a gun from an international seller. unless that gun is virtually unobtainium in the US, I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. The importation of that is a *****. I doubt ATF/CBP will even let it come back into the country with it being in a "non-sporting" configuratiion. ATF Form 6 and all that that entails. And it would need to stop at an out-of-state FFL first to have it californicated.

                        But in this case, sure does look like you got scammed.
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          SNCaliber
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3222

                          Western union is a huge red flag for a scam
                          -Sang

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                          • #14
                            71MUSTY
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 7029

                            Dude, I can fix your problem easy. Send me $500.00 by western union as a security deposit. I'll get your gun for you and refund your deposit when I'm done. Just need it to show your serious.



                            J/K of course.
                            Only slaves don't need guns

                            Originally posted by epilepticninja
                            Americans vs. Democrats
                            We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                            We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                            What doesn't kill me, better run

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                            • #15
                              rickey65
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 70

                              Had no idea he was an intl seller until he provided the tracking/shipping info after payment.
                              Well, I'm sick to my stomach. Going to that address next week. That name picked up the Western Union money with a govt issued idea.
                              As much as the police will allow me to get away with is what's going to happen. Keep the money, long as I can throw just one punch.
                              I appreciate your help and realization guys. I made a mistake it appears.

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