Hunter's Education Misinformation?

[MGriffen]

First let me say that I am very thankful for the folks that volunteer there time to teach these classes. Without them we would surely lose a rich part of our heritage.

That being said, at my hunters ed course this weekend I was told that it is unlawful to keep a loaded firearm in my home. That all weapons must be stored unloaded and separate from ammunition. I don't think this is true? Right? Please?

Next is that transportation of ammo (weather there is a firearm in the vehicle or not) must be kept in a locked container. The question was asked "So if I go to wall-mart and buy some ammo, the moment I get to the car I need to lock it in a separate container before I drive home?" The instructor answered "yes" Is this really true???

Thanks to anyone who clears this up for me with actual facts and not just "what you should do"

[sealocan]

Had your instructor just moved over from North Korea, London or possibly New York City and its not yet a custom to American laws?

(and you can ask him/them that for me.)


my guess is like a lot of people who don't know the reality of our complex California gun laws, play it on the extreme safe side and they want you to do the same.


the best place for you to read up on our California firearms laws, in easy to read layman's terms is the " Calguns foundation Wiki information pages"
(I'm sure it will show up on a Google search.)

...I know I personally learned a lot there.

[Tripper]

Sounds like he is repeating what he's been told
I've had many cops tell me I'm wrong in my classes when I say ammo and gun can be in same container.
PM me the instructor name/location if you don't mind, I've been trying to get this misinformation addressed at the annual hunter education instructor conferences

As to the facts, the law does say that a firearm must be stored safely, and if an 'unauthorized' person obtains it, you can be liable. However it's only applicable IF something happens
Storage, unloaded, in a locked container, ammo and firearm need not be separated.
Someone will be along shortly to link the PC and the CHP FAQ soon I'm sure



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[Citadelgrad87]

Some of the worst FUD is shoveled at those classes.

[Tripper]

Some of the worst FUD is shoveled at those classes.

Such as


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[Jason95357]

I know that California hunter education classes state you should not store firearms loaded or with any ammo. Online and in-person classes I have attended do not say anything about it being a law.

[BOOGIEMAN]

I know that California hunter education classes state you should not store firearms loaded or with any additional. Online and in-person classes I have attended do not say anything about it being a law.

Yes! For safety sake, it is just recommended not to store firearms loaded, but it is not against the law to have a loaded firearms in your abode.

[Untamed1972]

When I too my hunter ed course the instructor was also putting out some bad info. I just happened to have some printouts from CGF in my car and gave him one at the lunch break, and then also sent him an email after the class with some more info. I wasn't a jerk about it, and he was glad to be made aware of the updated info.

[Tripper]

I'm happy to take any info anyone has
I will submit to the hunter ed district coordinators to see if things can be addressed at a higher level


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[Tripper]

Hunter's Education Misinformation?

By the way
Don't think that I'm asking so as to get anyone in trouble
I'm just trying to get DFG to address the issue by maybe going over those things at an annual conference or put it in one of our quarterly bulletins
Heck I might even do a write up for the quarterly myself to address it
I just need to know what all needs to be addressed

What are they gonna do
Fire me from my volunteer job
Dock my pay
Make me not teach on weekends


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[Citadelgrad87]

Such as


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Well, such as you can't have a loaded firearm in your home. Such as ammo in a fire but outside the chamber of a weapon is every bit as dangerous as a round set off in a chamber. Etc.

[Tripper]

Hunter's Education Misinformation?

Well, such as you can't have a loaded firearm in your home. Such as ammo in a fire but outside the chamber of a weapon is every bit as dangerous as a round set off in a chamber. Etc.

Thanks

It's tough as instructors because these things aren't actually 'part of the curriculum' but students have the questions regarding such things and the expectation that we should have the answer to questions about these things. By default, we are volunteers so kind of by nature 'want' to answer questions and provide help.
Unfortunately, to answer, we must rely on our own knowledge, time and again you'll find that a person was told 'by a cop' so that's why it's repeated, they assume since it was told to them by a cop it must be true. That is very hard to overcome.

I'll have to find some myth busters for the ammo in a fire one
But they should be able to logically conclude that not to be a problem, simply by 'how a bullet is fired'

And feel free to PM a a person or location rather than post publicly
I'm not trying to 'out' anyone, there's a good chance I personally know any instructor that may be mentioned, and if so can talk to them directly

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[Librarian]

I'll have to find some myth busters for the ammo in a fire one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c

SAAMI - Sporting Ammunition and the Fire Fighter

[Tripper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c



SAAMI - Sporting Ammunition and the Fire Fighter

THAT IS AN AWESOME reference video, the bonfire is cool
I foresee many hunter education instructors seeing this video


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