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  • Little Willy
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 20

    Obama Budget Proposal Laying Foundation For Total Gun Control

    This system is the same database that would have been used for the "Universal Background Check" legislation which was defeated in the Senate last year. Oddly enough, Eric Holder seems to still be making preparations for such a system. From the FY 2014 Budgetary proposal:

    This program enhancement will double the capacity of the existing NICS system. These expansions are vital in ensuring that the NICS system can support a Universal Background Check requirement, which is expected to double gross NICS transactions. This expansion will allow the NICS IT system to handle twice to gross transaction load it currently does.



    Looks like Eric Holder and the Obama administration forgot that the "Universal Background Check" idea got killed by their own party in the Senate. Or perhaps they have just quit giving a F*$# completely.

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    Little Willy
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 20

    The Proposal also mentions a smart gun technology that would be used to control who could operate the weapon, as well as tracking it's location.

    They're taking aim gentlemen.

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    • #3
      OlderThanDirt
      FUBAR
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jun 2009
      • 5862

      I would not be surprised to see some pretty wild executive orders issued by Obama after the November 2014 elections (when this new budget would be enacted). While something like a universal background check may seem beyond the scope of a legal executive order, the Obama administration hasn't let a minor detail like the US constitution get in the way. Then there is agency rulemaking where various agencies take something passed by Congress and develop regulations to implement the legislation. In case people haven't noticed, the EPA has been going wild with their new interpretation of the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, issuing new regulations for "pollutants" like carbon dioxide and redefining wetlands and blue line streams.
      We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
      Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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      • #4
        11HE9
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 771

        Originally posted by Little Willy
        This system is the same database that would have been used for the "Universal Background Check" legislation which was defeated in the Senate last year.

        I REALLY hope they hired the same folks who put togather the "ACA" (a.k.a. O'blamer care) to set up the "UBC"


        I predict massive FAIL in the future

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44650

          If it's in the budget, there's no chance it will be implemented via that avenue. The latest budget proposal from the Whitehouse was rejected by the House 413-2
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            6114DAVE
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 4083

            Originally posted by Librarian
            If it's in the budget, there's no chance it will be implemented via that avenue. The latest budget proposal from the Whitehouse was rejected by the House 413-2
            meaning his own party brethren voted against it right?

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            • #7
              gwgn02
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 3397

              Democrats are so out of touch, they are ignoring recent rulings and huge 2A victories...its all out of desperation at this point...they need to rally their base and its not working. AT ALL.

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              • #8
                ChrisC
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2469

                Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                I would not be surprised to see some pretty wild executive orders issued by Obama after the November 2014 elections (when this new budget would be enacted). While something like a universal background check may seem beyond the scope of a legal executive order, the Obama administration hasn't let a minor detail like the US constitution get in the way.
                Obama can not use nor has he tried to use EO's to take away gun rights. He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.

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                • #9
                  mshill
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 4451

                  Originally posted by ChrisC
                  He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.
                  ^^^^ This. While I don't care for the mans arrogance or politics he simply doesn't have the power to unilaterally nullify the 2A. I would not at all be surprised though if the plan was to build out the NICS to be a vehicle for when mandatory registration of all firearms becomes law. I really do think that something was learned from the admittedly botched ACA rollout. They won't be caught with their pants down when they get Gun Control reform that they want so bad.
                  The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                  • #10
                    majtom94
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1120

                    Originally posted by ChrisC
                    Obama can not use nor has he tried to use EO's to take away gun rights. He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.
                    Poking the fires or more like ensuring that 2A supporters have the necessary information to make an informed decision in 2014.

                    We have seen what stupied, ill informed voters can do when Obama was elected for the second time. The emporer has no clothes, he should just play golf so as to not f*** up America any more.

                    Course after this past weekend the feds may need to re-think just how angered the people really are.
                    "Do Democrats even realize that they are making more people buy more guns?"

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                    • #11
                      Fishslayer
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13035

                      Originally posted by majtom94

                      Course after this past weekend the feds may need to re-think just how angered the people really are.
                      They mad, bro?
                      "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                      You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                      You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                      Originally posted by redcliff
                      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                      • #12
                        OlderThanDirt
                        FUBAR
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 5862

                        Originally posted by ChrisC
                        Obama can not use nor has he tried to use EO's to take away gun rights. He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.
                        Well, I realize I am highly influential and can singlehandedly feed the fire of panic buyers, I never said Obama would use an EO to take away gun rights. However, Obama can use an EO to direct federal agencies to develop and implement regulations that would indirectly hamper gun rights. Look at what Obama has already done in areas like immigration enforcement (or lack thereof) and the federal minimum wage. These actions trickle down well beyond just federal agencies. I can think of several actions Obama could achieve with an EO that would make gun owners very unhappy. These actions would not take away any rights, but would make exercising these rights more difficult and expensive, especially in the western US where Obama is the biggest landowner (at least in his mind).
                        We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                        Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                        • #13
                          OlderThanDirt
                          FUBAR
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 5862

                          Originally posted by ChrisC
                          Obama can not use nor has he tried to use EO's to take away gun rights. He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.
                          GOP fears executive order on biometric guns

                          Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) is warning the Obama administration to not issue an executive order requiring that all new guns be made with biometric technology, such as finger-print recognition or bracelets.
                          Feeding the fire with more unfounded fear mongering...

                          Don't underestimate the amount of damage that can be done through executive orders, regardless of the EO legality.
                          We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                          Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                          • #14
                            Antagon3
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 722

                            Another day, another confiscation thread (or 2)

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                            • #15
                              Rainbow Warrior
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 10501

                              Originally posted by ChrisC
                              Obama can not use nor has he tried to use EO's to take away gun rights. He can not do that, it is not legal. All your doing is feeding the fire of the panic buyers again.
                              Defend this pos to the end, right ?

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