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  • Helpinghand
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 3

    A widow needs help (questions on deceased husbands firearms)

    I am from up North, and a friend of mine down your way in Ca. recently passed away. He was a gun enthusiast. He may have left guns that may not be legal in Ca, along with other guns that are.
    His widow does not know how many of his guns are registered, or whether they had to be. She knows little about guns and Ca. gun laws. I know something about guns, but little about Ca. gun laws.
    She is not interested in keeping them. Her late husband may have spent a great deal on his gun collection. She may want to recover what she can.
    In my state, gun ownership laws are not as restrictive as yours. I don't know how\if I can assist her?
    Please advise....
  • #2
    Revoman
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2393

    This is something that comes up once in awhile, that really shouldn't.

    If they are in CA and not on the (safety) roster, they are basically exempt from the normal new gun CA laws as long as they are a private party transfer, which means they must be transferred via an FFL (Federal Firearms License Dealer) between your widower friend and the new buyer. They can all be sold to a single buyer if they are exempt from the roster. If they are transferred to an FFL, they then become a LEO (Law Enforcement Only) firearm and are way harder to sell for the FFL. So very few FFL's are willing to do that.

    They can be put on consignment at an FFL for a fee, usually about 10% of the sale price to the FFL for holding the firearm.

    If they are sold to a buyer in another state, the CA laws pretty much go to the receiving state laws, but cannot reenter CA once that is done unless certain criteria is met.

    If your widower friend wishes to sell them in this state, she will pretty much need to do the FFL private party transfer by advertising on the web such as this Forum, or elsewhere and get them sold that way unless you are willing to buy them in a 'free state' and sell them under your state laws to help, but that may be considered as a straw sale and is also illegal.

    She can put them on a site such as GunBroker and sell them to other states as well without much ado as stated earlier, other states are not like CA and allow that sort of purchase.

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    • #3
      Fishslayer
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2010
      • 13035

      Originally posted by Revoman

      They can be put on consignment at an FFL for a fee, usually about 10% of the sale price to the FFL for holding the firearm.
      Who does consignment sales in Kalifornistan for 10%?
      "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
      You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
      You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
      Originally posted by redcliff
      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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      • #4
        gigglemonkee
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1512

        Originally posted by Fishslayer
        Who does consignment sales in Kalifornistan for 10%?
        no one. going rate is 30 percent for a sale under 1k and 25 percent for over

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        • #5
          SLO1911Fan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 1483

          Where is she in California? I work at a shop in Orange County and would be happy to help her through the consignment process and appraise the guns. We generally try to keep our consignment fees low, especially when selling a collection. If you're interested just let me know.

          Thanks,
          Ryan
          I'm a big old, bourbon-soaked cigar-huffing ***, as God in his infinite wisdom meant me to be. - Charlie Sheen.

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          • #6
            003
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3436



            Tell your friend to contact these folks. Honest as the day is long. They will help get her the best price, and take care of any and all issues as it relates to California law and the sale of firearms.

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            • #7
              Not a Cook
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1684

              Originally posted by 003
              http://www.lsbauctions.com/

              Tell your friend to contact these folks. Honest as the day is long. They will help get her the best price, and take care of any and all issues as it relates to California law and the sale of firearms.
              I second that you at least give Lock Stock & Barrel (www.lsbauctions.com) a call and see how they can help. This is the sort of thing they specialize in, and they'll give your friend options (e.g. buy the lot of firearms outright, put them all on consignment, or some combination of the two). I know the owner (Mr. Hoglund) is a stand-up guy.
              Regarding the 2nd Amendment:
              "...to disarm the people ― that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason ("The Father of the Bill of Rights")

              Regarding Life and Death:
              "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28

              The BIG question: "What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ?" Matthew 27:22b

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              • #8
                Marquand
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1482

                I'd also recommend Lock Stock & Barrel. I've auctioned firearms through them before. They are honest, professional, and (most importantly for a non-gun person) easy to deal with.
                "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  Helpinghand
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 3

                  Thank you all for the advice. I think a gun broker is a suggestion I'll make to her. Do you guys/ladies know of a reputable broker in the Bakersfield area that can be recommended?

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19787

                    Gunbroker.com will charge far less than any of these other suggestions. Her not being gun savvy at all means you would need to help out. Some handguns may bring more money in the California market if she's willing to go through the hassle of Private Party Transactions.

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                    • #11
                      Helpinghand
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 3

                      I just read my private messages from many of you. I had overlooked that I had received them prior to this morning. Thank you all for your suggestions, opinions, and offers to help.
                      These guns, all being legal in my state, including the few that may be illegal in Ca., can I drive them all back up into my legal state? Of course with the widows permission to take them.
                      Once here, I could bring them to a trusted local FFL gun dealer to sell.

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