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  • #16
    Changalang
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 945

    all the fanboys always say something to the effect of "if your FL is messing up the op of your firearm then youre using it wrong!!!"

    well some people dont want a weapons lube that needs special needs. get SLIP2000 OP. you dont need to dance the FL crowd dance but still get the same if not better lubricity for your firearm.

    from its inception i always said FL is a minty-smelling NAVY SEAL YEEAAAA gimmick. frog lube, the snake oil for gun owners
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    • #17
      f308gt4
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 614

      Originally posted by Press Check
      Build-up in nooks and crannies?

      I had a 1911 lubricated in Froglube that sat for over 6 months that I just shot recently without a single problem, and I'm fairly liberal in the liquid application of it. The same applies to my BCG's. I've had the exact same bottle of liquid and paste since the debut of Froglube, and the consistency hasn't changed, nor has the color.

      I have no idea which you're using, but I've noticed a trend in people applying the paste version without heating the parts, then experiencing obvious malfunctions.

      Personally, I use the paste to treat heated parts, completely remove it because even after the paste melts into liquid, if any is left, it will return to paste form, then lubricate the parts with the liquid.
      I suspect the issue is with the paste more so than the liquid. I do heat up when using the paste, then wipe off when it has cooled down. I use the liquid just like you would any other liquid CLP.

      It's funny, because the tub of paste I have seems fine. It has not gone rancid or anything like that. But, on the firearm, I have a sticky gunk. I can't explain it, but it's there. And I have followed the directions.

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      • #18
        Army
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3915

        The military tests new lubes and oils as they come onto the market, hoping to find the next best thing. Thus it was with Break-Free CLP, as it replaced the decades old RBC and "Oil, Gun".

        The Army found a problem with Break-Free, and had them change the formula to remove the Teflon, leaving us the current CLP that works as designed and tested in some of the crappiest places on earth.

        Why some of you guys have to jump on the latest fad for gun fluids, I'll never know. Motor oil? Transmission fluid? Soak overnight in diesel?

        Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with companies that have been making gun related fluids through history.

        Oh. Yeah. I still have a gallon of RBC. Still works like a charm
        "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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        • #19
          wiki wiki
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 166

          Can anybody who has had this problem post up some photos? Been using FL for a couple of years now, not shy about using it either, but just can't seem to duplicate any "gunking". Haven't tried sticking any of the firearms in the freezer yet to see if I could freeze up the frog lube, but then again, that's not how I normally store my guns between shooting sessions.

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          • #20
            f308gt4
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 614

            I hadn't had this problem either until recently. I wish I had taken some photos. As I begin cleaning up some of my other firearms, I will post some pics if I see anything.

            Don't think it's a temp issue, as I've used them when cold and didn't see any problems. And it's a recent thing for me. Perhaps I didn't clean as well as I should have the last time I used it?

            Maybe it's user error, I don't know. But, I have better things to do with my time than troubleshoot lubrication issues with my firearms.

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            • #21
              drifter2be
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 2177

              With all the issues that I see popping up from people that froglube their guns I am glad I decided to stick with grease and oil. Ever since I started seeing it I always felt is was a bit of a "snake oil" type of product.

              Quite frankly if it works for you, then great, but I'll stick with grease and oil which has never let me down.
              Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
              Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

              "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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              • #22
                mark501w
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1699

                Why reinvent the wheel clp . It will turn into something else but, periodic cleaning will cure that.

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                • #23
                  dyson
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 4342

                  I switched from froglube on my P229 because im noticing rail wear and wanted to start using grease. However i still use froglube on a few other pistols and never had these issues of gumming. I have a mk25 with FL that i havent shot in 6 months and its still clean as when i last cleaned.

                  When you are applying the FL are you keeping the muzzle facing down so liquid does not enter the firing pin housing? Thats something i do with any cleaning product is keep anything from getting in there.

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                  • #24
                    Mud Eagle
                    Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 325

                    Switched to Mobil 1, using leftovers from my car oil changes, years ago.

                    Never had a need to look to any of the boutique lubes that cost ridiculously more, including FrogLube.

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                    • #25
                      lt05deluxe
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1082

                      Read the instructions. There shouldn't be any signs of frog lube when applied properly. I never had problems with it and it's on all my firearms. It will actually sweat out of the metal when it gets hot.

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                      • #26
                        Cuda440
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 3289

                        I've tried a bunch of gun lubes, but found that heavy industry lubes are better engineered and just work better all around.

                        After a normal good cleaning with traditional solvents, brake clean, etc. I use two different lubes.

                        For oil and corrosion prevention- Fluid Film is the best I have ever encountered, lasts years without any drying or loss of protection.

                        For grease- Haynes LubriFilm will make any action feel slick as buttered chrome in any temp range, is extremely water resistant, and will stay slick for years.

                        I use both of those products in the extremely harsh dairy industry and they have out-performed any other lubricants we have tried in the last 4 decades.
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                        • #27
                          dyson
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 4342

                          You do have to do a pretty detailed cleaning to make sure no FL is on the gun, but after that you don't need to apply FL for 3 range sessions (except the barrel). You just wipe the carbon off with a microfiber cloth. If you are following this, the infrequent applications makes even less likely for build up.

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                          • #28
                            Mayor McRifle
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 7666

                            Originally posted by f308gt4
                            Last night, I shot my Ruger SR22 for the first time in a while. Immediately started getting extractor problems. WTF? So, I took it apart, and noticed some gook on the extractor. Cleaned it up, and it fixed the issue. However, another issue became apparent. Every few rounds, I'd pull the trigger and no fire. Recocking the pistol would eventually get it to go. My analysis is that somehow, Froglube got into the firing channel and gummed/gunked up, causing issues with the pin.
                            I'm not a Froglube user, but try it on some different guns. I have similar problems with my SR22 with any ammo besides CCI Mini-mags, no matter what cleaning/lube products I use. It's the only gun I own that suffers from regular firing issues. The most annoying issue is arbitrarily falling out of single action back in to double action. I just use the SR22 for plinking at the outdoor range. It gives me good practice dealing with malfunctions.
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                            • #29
                              PolishMike
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 6034

                              I've used everything. It seems froglube takes down at least one gun at every class I go to.

                              The only thing that has always worked for me in all conditions is mobile 1 5w-20.
                              Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                              • #30
                                Sonic_mike
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3483

                                Originally posted by ralph.garmin
                                Slip2000. I converted as well. My froggy was turning into brown globs. Me no likey.
                                +1 Slip2000 ftw.

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