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  • THBailey
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 737

    Air Travel With Your Firearm

    Just read through another thread concerning issues at the airport and a gun in the luggage and thought I would offer a few suggestions how we do it.



    For what it's worth, for years we have made our annual trek to Wisconsin for deer hunting, taking our guns with us and have never had to much trouble. Depending on where the best fares are we have gone in and out of Sacramento, San Francisco, Reno, Midway and O'Hare in Chicago, and Milwaukie, flying usually on Southwest but also United and a couple of smaller carriers. Maybe we have just been lucky, but there are a couple of things we do that probably might have helped.

    Of course we read and comply with both the TSA and our airlines requirements, but I also each year print out the relevant web pages from both. I put them in a file folder, tabbed and yellow highlighted at relevant points. Especially when returning through Chicago's O'Hare with ice chests of frozen venison and hunting rifles, my folder information has come in handy when dealing with airline personnel which up until then were blissfully ignorant of their companies rules and policies concerning firearms, frozen food and ice chests.

    We also pack the guns disassembled so anyone with minimal firearm experience can tell at a glance they are inert, even in the x-ray. Bolt out of the rifle, barrel off the shotgun, etc. We wrap with terrycloth towels to protect if things shift around a bit during travel.

    Don't flunk the 3 second attitude test. The idea is to convey the image of a savvy traveler who has done his homework rather than loudly tell the counter person they are ignorant and have their head where the sun don't shine. The one time we had to stand our ground with an obviously anti-gun animal rights activist at O'Hare she wound up getting the last word in when our guns went to Las Vegas rather than landing with us in Sacramento.

    Going hunting in Wisconsin in winter we take a lot of stuff. We weigh our to be checked luggage to confirm compliance with the 50 lb limit. Especially the ice chests. I loved seeing the look of disappointment that went across that O'Hare activists face when our ice chests all came in at 49.5 lbs.

    And finally, be aware of your airlines policy on ice. Some allow dry ice, some don't, some allow regular ice, some don't. Just a little more information to be printed out for the folder. We actually don't use ice anymore, just vacuum packed and frozen meat with the ice chests sealed up with duct tape. Traveling in November and December it arrives home still hard frozen.

    This has just been our experience, yours may vary.
    THBailey


    As Will Rogers once said:
    "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects."
  • #2
    ryan_j
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 292

    The instructor in my Utah class offered a helpful tip.

    If you're going to fly with your firearm, go up to the counter and say something like, "I have an unloaded firearm I would like to check in."

    Do NOT go up and say, "I got a gun!!!!"

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    • #3
      edrex
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 360

      I've never had a bad experience flying with firearms.
      Couple added suggestions: for your locked handgun case, clearly print and tape your name and cell phone number to the outside of the case. If there are any problems it will be the fastest way for someone to contact you. While that info is also on the firearm declaration card, I've noticed different airports have different policies about whether the card gets locked in the handgun case or stays outside of it. I also use a keyed lock, not a combo. I've read lately that some airports are demanding (illegally) the combinations to checked firearms. Seems much less likely that they would try to take someones key away from them.
      It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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      • #4
        ElvenSoul
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 17431

        They just totally lost a whole airplane! Not my babies no airplanes!
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        • #5
          nubudu
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 84

          I flew for the first time with my handgun last week. I found the process to be quite easy. It certainly changes by airport.

          I checked in at LAX and declared my firearm to the ticket agent. I followed the advice from ryan_j above regarding what I said.

          The ticket agent acted like it was an everyday occurrence. She passed me a slip to complete that was inserted into my locked hard sided case. I then locked the case and placed it inside my larger checked suitcase.

          I was then instructed to take the case to the TSA baggage check. The suitcase was scanned while I waited. The TSA agent gave me the "thumbs up" when done.

          All in all very simple took about 10 mins longer than normal.

          On the return trip I checked in at Nashville airport. Again using ryan_j advice from the post above. Again the agent seemed like it happened all the time. This time the agent taped the declaration to the outside of the locked hard case; I then locked the outer suitcase.

          At this airport there was no additional process. My checked bag (hard case inside) carried on like any other checked bag. Not really any additional time lost here.

          One thing I did notice was that both flights my suitcase was literally the first bag to appear at the baggage claim. Possibly a desirable side effect or maybe random coincidence.

          Both times my luggage was not opened for any further inspection inspection.

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          • #6
            Jimi Jah
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2014
            • 19211

            I'd rather trust a private carrier than the TSA. I ship UPS ahead of my flight. If you do use the TSA, get plenty of theft insurance, you may need it.

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            • #7
              mikenewgun87
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2011
              • 7732

              I flew from WI to CA with a firearm. Got to the airport, told the attendent that i would like to check it in. She called up some if the baggage checkers/security go with me. Made sure it was clear and unloaded with lock. Secured it again with another lock (my call) and signed some paperwork....bammmmm done sir done.

              Go to John Wanye, picked up the pistol, went home...

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              • #8
                Capybara
                CGSSA Coordinator
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2012
                • 15607

                I flew home from Phoenix a couple of months ago with a newly acquired C&R pistol. I too have flown with guns several times now, Southwest to Burbank. All went well with check in, TSA, etc. but when I arrived at Burbank, last flight, of course, my case with the pistol did not show up. Needless to say, I was not very happy about this, the guys in the Southwest baggage claim office tried to help but couldn't track down where the case was. A lot of what ifs went through my head. If the pistol never shows up, do I report it to Phoenix Airport Security? Phoenix PD? Burbank PD? I really don't want a pistol that was sold to me to end up being used in a crime because of airline incompetence or theft. Thankfully it was a Tokarev in 7.62x25 so I was comforted in knowing that the average criminal or gang member probably wouldn't be hot to use it for lack of ammo availability or even knowing where to buy that caliber.

                I filled out the claim and thankfully, the case made it's way to the earliest Phoenix plane in the next morning. Southwest sent it to me via a courier and all's well that ends well, but it was a stressful night knowing my pistol might have somehow been stolen at Phoenix Airport. That said, I will definitely continue to fly regularly, checking guns. Other than this one time, I have never had a problem, although the case with gun often shows up on the regular baggage carousel, I think it is supposed to go to the baggage claim office, not just be mixed in with all of the other bags?
                Last edited by Capybara; 04-28-2014, 4:03 PM.
                NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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                • #9
                  john67elco
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3155

                  I'm flying to WI next month and carry with my CA CCW. I plan on shipping mine to myself before I fly out.
                  Originally posted by Gwalker99
                  ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


                  half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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                  • #10
                    GardoneVT
                    Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 434

                    Flying with a gun sounds harder then it is.
                    In any event, I flew into and out of LAX with nary a problem.

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                    • #11
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 19211

                      You only need one bad experience to become friendly with UPS.

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                      • #12
                        Doheny
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13820

                        With guns, is nearly always the baggage handlers and airline employees you need to worry about, not TSA employees.
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                        • #13
                          smle-man
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10605

                          Originally posted by Capybara
                          I flew home from Phoenix a couple of months ago with a newly acquired C&R pistol. I too have flown with guns several times now, Southwest to Burbank. All went well with check in, TSA, etc. but when I arrived at Burbank, last flight, of course, my case with the pistol did not show up. Needless to say, I was not very happy about this, the guys in the Southwest baggage claim office tried to help but couldn't track down where the case was. A lot of what ifs went through my head. If the pistol never shows up, do I report it to Phoenix Airport Security? Phoenix PD? Burbank PD? I really don't want a pistol that was sold to me to end up being used in a crime because of airline incompetence or theft. Thankfully it was a Tokarev in 7.62x25 so I was comforted in knowing that the average criminal or gang member probably wouldn't be hot to use it for lack of ammo availability or even knowing where to buy that caliber.

                          I filled out the claim and thankfully, the case made it's way to the earliest Phoenix plane in the next morning. Southwest sent it to me via a courier and all's well that ends well, but it was a stressful night knowing my pistol might have somehow been stolen at Phoenix Airport. That said, I will definitely continue to fly regularly, checking guns. Other than this one time, I have never had a problem, although the case with gun often shows up on the regular baggage carousel, I think it is supposed to go to the baggage claim office, not just be mixed in with all of the other bags?
                          When I flew to Dulles in VA on Southwest last month a Southwest gent met me at the luggage carousel with the two gun cases in hand. We had a nice chat about shooting and the military (my luggage tag has my retired rank on it). It was a good experience.

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                          • #14
                            Xdjack
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 82

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                            Pretty interesting first experience with a checked weapon in my luggage. I left my bag at ticket counter after ticket agent checked my case and weapon, and she placed the small tag on my case. When I opened my bag upon arrival the larger tag was in my LOCKED suitcase. Evidently they opened my bag and inspected it after I checked my bag.

                            Unexpected benefit my bag was the first off of the conveyer.

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                            • #15
                              zinfull
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2733

                              I use to hunt deer in WI but quit after they introduced wolves in my hunting area. Deer count dropped and was just to disappointing. The only problem I had was in SFO on the return trip. They put my rifle case on a different carousal and when I finally found it some guy was bending down to pick it up. Almost lost it that time

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