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  • riderr
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 6697

    Some opinions about you, guys :)

    Was looking for an off-roster handgun on GunBroker recently. Asked a few sellers, if they would be willing to ship the gun to my FFL in CA, if he accepts it. I would pay in full, no return policy, etc. One of the sellers rejected with explanation it would be illegal for them to ship it to CA. Got into a very polite discussion, tried to fill in the gaps and show different scenarios, showing it wasn't illegal. They stood their grounds, cool. Then, all of a sudden on of them exploded. Here is the exact quote

    Originally posted by Randy Clark of Nottely Firearms
    Arrogant Californians are another reason FFL's refuse to ship anything to your once great state. Go harass someone else into selling you a firearm. You leftist Democrats will stop at nothing in your assault on the 2nd Ammendment. Including setting up FFL's one at a time. You have affirmed my decision to refuse sales to California.
    Which I replied with
    Originally posted by me
    It's a very nice and polite way to talk to a new customer, I should say. I can rest assure you I'll let my pro-2A folks to know about your arrogance and disrespect.
    And he continued with
    Originally posted by Randy Clark of Nottely Firearms
    Nothing like that exists in California....comrade
    The best I can do is to share it with you, my non-existent comrades LOL
    On a serious note, I am going to boycott their business. Too bad, it's veteran's owned company in GA. I believe it could hardly be used as excuse for such a *****ty attitude.

    Feel free to make your own conclusions
    Last edited by riderr; 04-03-2014, 1:03 PM.
  • #2
    calif 15-22
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2012
    • 6027

    Crappy people live in every state . . . so also do great people!

    Carry on . . .
    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.
    Originally posted by Hoooper
    Anyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dream
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    • #3
      riderr
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2013
      • 6697

      I personally don't care. I am too old for being offended by some narrow minded prick. It's just you know who to do or not to do business with next time. This seller has a good solid reputation on GB
      Last edited by riderr; 04-03-2014, 1:08 PM.

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      • #4
        Dirk Tungsten
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 2047

        Business owner rejecting a sale (and potential repeat customer)? Brilliant! Word of mouth is very powerful and I suspect known CA friendly firearms dealers get tons of business via referrals. I know I've patronized dealers after hearing about a willingness to work with us here, and I've referred others to the same dealers for the same reason.

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        • #5
          Artema
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 3821

          I'll take note and never buy from him while I live in Colorado.
          - SAAMI Pressure Specs
          Originally posted by Artema
          I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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          • #6
            Rainbow Warrior
            Banned
            • Apr 2010
            • 10501

            That's to bad, crapping on a whole state isn't a very good business practice.

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            • #7
              Artema
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 3821

              Maybe you could start bidding and winning all his auctions, lol.
              - SAAMI Pressure Specs
              Originally posted by Artema
              I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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              • #8
                riderr
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2013
                • 6697

                Originally posted by Artema
                Maybe you could start bidding and winning all his auctions, lol.
                LOL. GB will kick me out in a brisk of an eye I'd rather see nobody bid on their auctions

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                • #9
                  Artema
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3821

                  Originally posted by riderr
                  LOL. GB will kick me out in a brisk of an eye I'd rather see nobody bid on their auctions
                  I was joking. I didn't mean with your primary account.
                  - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                  Originally posted by Artema
                  I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                  • #10
                    ramathorn
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1652

                    That is not a good way to run a business. His policy is fine but his attitude is awful especially when communicating with potential customers.

                    As far as not selling to California, i don't really blame him. With so many laws that are in the grey area and constantly changing you'd need to follow our courts or have a lawyer on staff to make sure you're not breaking a law or doing something that'll cause a potential lawsuit. I work in construction and i sometimes feel that we need a lawyer close by for all of the hoops we have to jump through to keep everything legit. We're way over regulated here in CA, its tough for business owners.

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                    • #11
                      Artema
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 3821

                      Regardless of the roster it is legal to ship nearly any semi-auto pistol to a FFL. Let them deal with it if they can't SSE. It shouldn't be up to him to worry about difficulty in making a sale after the legal transaction on his end.
                      - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                      Originally posted by Artema
                      I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                      • #12
                        mlevans66
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 9516

                        Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
                        That's to bad, crapping on a whole state isn't a very good business practice.
                        To bad the whole state craps on them, us and the 2A. Blame you leaders and remember to vote them out along with there friends.
                        The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
                        The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                        I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                        • #13
                          riderr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 6697

                          Originally posted by mlevans66
                          To bad the whole state craps on them, us and the 2A. Blame you leaders and remember to vote them out along with there friends.
                          I don't see how it substantiates a cocky attitude and disrespect. I have no problem with the business policy, but insulting the entire community is hardly an appropriate behavior. Like another seller took my explanation in the consideration, informed they would continue researching it, but politely stood their grounds. I have absolutely no issue with such a business.
                          Last edited by riderr; 04-03-2014, 2:17 PM.

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                          • #14
                            stix213
                            AKA: Joe Censored
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 19002

                            Was your FFL going to SSE the gun for you, or are you roster exempt? Otherwise your FFL wouldn't be able to complete the sale of the off roster pistol.

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                            • #15
                              riderr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 6697

                              Originally posted by stix213
                              Was your FFL going to SSE the gun for you, or are you roster exempt? Otherwise your FFL wouldn't be able to complete the sale of the off roster pistol.
                              SSE, but it doesn't matter for the purpose of shipment, considering I have my FFL's acceptance. Many FFL buy it from out of state, for both SSE and LEO sales.

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