Gunowners Beware: No-knock SWAT Attacks

[CPRAFAN]

http://townhall.com/columnists/katiekieffer/2014/03/24/beware-noknock-swat-attacks-n1812832?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

"Swatting" is a new pastime for angry neighbors and ex-girlfriends - you are an anonymous phone call away from a SWAT raid busting in your door . . . .

[TruEdge]

Scary stuff. Typical shoot first ask questions later.

[tonyxcom]

I have a no soliciting sign on my front door so I am good.

[sealocan]

no soliciting signs = no selling and they don't stop salesman and I'm pretty sure they're not going to work with a SWAT team,
but who knows, maybe.
:-)

I'm going to stick with my home made warning sign :
" this house is contaminated with Calgunitis !!! extremely contagious!.. we're talking worse than Fighterpilots basement! bad stuff! stay away! "


but on a serious note, this gets worse and worse as I get older.
I'm almost become too cynical and believe they've got the secret formula for turning up the heat very slowly & cooking the frog without the frog getting upset and causing a commotion...

The bad news is, we are the frog.

[emptybottle151]

[DTOM CA!]

No knock warrants are really no different IMO. The regular "knock" warrants are knock twice, yell police and knock down the door. It takes 1-2 seconds to be inside so either way makes no "real" difference. If I was a bad guy that did home invasion robberies I would knock down the door and yell "Police" so anyone inside would hesitate to defend themselves until it was to late. It is scarey times !

[Jimi Jah]

This is a result of the militarization of the local police forces. One city gets a military assault vehicle and the next city wants one too.

SWAT teams are used for every day police work, only because they have those assets and must use them to justify having them.

Someone in law enforcement will need to explain to me why a SWAT team is needed for a domestic police call. What are they expecting to find, Osama?

[TruEdge]

No knock warrants are really no different IMO. The regular "knock" warrants are knock twice, yell police and knock down the door. It takes 1-2 seconds to be inside so either way makes no "real" difference. If I was a bad guy that did home invasion robberies I would knock down the door and yell "Police" so anyone inside would hesitate to defend themselves until it was to late. It is scarey times !

Sounds like you have experience doing home invasions

[Antagon3]

Didn't a SWAT officer take a few rounds and die in one of these dumbass raids? What's that saying about playing stupid games?

[The Gleam]

"Swatting" is a new pastime for angry neighbors and ex-girlfriends - you are an anonymous phone call away from a SWAT raid busting in your door . . . .

New? It's been going on now for at least the past 3 years. Really ramped up in 2013 and has started to die down recently, but may pick up in popularity in other states. CA passed a bill last year strengthening punitive damages for those caught doing it.

Regardless, this country needs to take a huge step back in militarizing its police forces, especially when in most all cases, a simple knock on the door and standard procedure at a normal hour (and not in the middle of the night) would not only suffice, but not be chaotic or result in a disastrous end.

We are going down the same path as a 1933 Germany, while voting for it, cultivating it, supporting it, and allowing it.

[Rickrock1]

Bring out the battering ram

[navin r]

New? It's been going on now for at least the past 3 years. Really ramped up in 2013 and has started to die down recently, but may pick up in popularity in other states. CA passed a bill last year strengthening punitive damages for those caught doing it.

Regardless, this country needs to take a huge step back in militarizing its police forces, especially when in most all cases, a simple knock on the door and standard procedure at a normal hour (and not in the middle of the night) would not only suffice, but not be chaotic or result in a disastrous end.

We are going down the same path as a 1933 Germany, while voting for it, cultivating it, supporting it, and allowing it.

This. Well said, thank you.

[klewan]

New? It's been going on now for at least the past 3 years. Really ramped up in 2013 and has started to die down recently, but may pick up in popularity in other states. CA passed a bill last year strengthening punitive damages for those caught doing it.

Regardless, this country needs to take a huge step back in militarizing its police forces, especially when in most all cases, a simple knock on the door and standard procedure at a normal hour (and not in the middle of the night) would not only suffice, but not be chaotic or result in a disastrous end.

We are going down the same path as a 1933 Germany, while voting for it, cultivating it, supporting it, and allowing it.

The conservative blogger, Patterico, was the first one I knew about getting "swatted". There was a real run on crazies calling 911 and reporting a shooting, kidnapping, or some other violent crime. He was reporting them on his blog, and there were a couple that were this >< close to getting shot.

[morfeeis]

No knock warrants are really no different IMO. The regular "knock" warrants are knock twice, yell police and knock down the door. It takes 1-2 seconds to be inside so either way makes no "real" difference. If I was a bad guy that did home invasion robberies I would knock down the door and yell "Police" so anyone inside would hesitate to defend themselves until it was to late. It is scarey times !

How bad is it that i have thought about that a many of times, what if a scum bag breaks in and yells Police! God forbid i should ever face such a situation but my idea would be to take cover and ask for the warrant to be shown before coming out. that would make sense when dealing with "thinking people" but 9/10 the leo would just shoot me for challenging their authority.

[Custom ii]

It amazes me how the rules of engagement are much more stringent in a war zone such as Afghanistan than they are with law enforcement in a free republic. The sad state of affairs in this once great country. I still believe this is the greatest country on earth but the divide that creates the difference between us and them is shrinking fast.