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  • SocomM4
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 2187

    So what's with the ATF??

    Seems like they are going around bullying anyone associated with %80 lowers? Are they acting within the law or just intimidating honest law abiding folks?
    Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
    maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
    Originally posted by ir0nclash86
    I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
    Originally posted by Ride Madone
    It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.
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    JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    I've only heard about them raiding Ares Armor. Who else have they been "bullying"?
    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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    • #3
      SocomM4
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 2187

      Just seems from what I've noticed the last few months build parties drying up, anyone willing to help mill are turning ppl away , some due to letters received.
      Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
      maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
      Originally posted by ir0nclash86
      I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
      Originally posted by Ride Madone
      It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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      • #4
        Tasty
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1829

        Not sure but my favorite so far is the claim that Ares is making that someone from the ATF has asked them to stop making meme posters from the raid and putting them online. Lol!
        As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said "If the day does not require an AK, it is good."

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          They are after those who are manufacturing firearms without a license. Their opinion is that anyone who is "helping" others as a regular course of business needs an 07FFL to do so.
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          • #6
            AKSOG
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 4139

            Originally posted by SocomM4
            Just seems from what I've noticed the last few months build parties drying up, anyone willing to help mill are turning ppl away , some due to letters received.
            Pretty much all of the CNC guys have been served cease and desist letters or gotten shutdown from a visit from what hear. I haven't seen any evidence they are being perused criminally for "helping" yet. There is however, at least one mentioned in an affidavit floating around, being accused of knowingly providing prohibited persons a place to manufacture at their facility.
            Last edited by AKSOG; 03-20-2014, 10:05 AM.

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            • #7
              desrt2
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 319

              It's probably been discussed already but isn't the BATFE stating that the 80% lowers are complete and the FCP is filled in with the different colored polymer?

              The technically correct way to manufacture one is to create the FCP then pour the receiver over it.

              They are splitting hairs if this is what it's about.

              All of the 80% Polymer lowers with the 2 colors look mostly the same. One company makes a single use polymer jig for theirs.

              I wonder if it's one MFR and all the other companies are re-sellers.
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              "Let them hate so long as they fear."

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              • #8
                beretta929mm
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 1492

                Originally posted by SocomM4
                Seems like they are going around bullying anyone associated with %80 lowers? Are they acting within the law or just intimidating honest law abiding folks?
                Do you have a bigger version of your avatar?

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                • #9
                  SocomM4
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2187

                  Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                  maybe I'm wrong, but, if a $50.00 investment can help me a bit, i'll just have to go a day without the hookers and blow to cover it
                  Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                  I would wipe it off for the simple fact of not wanting to get sprayed in the face with it during the first few rounds.
                  Originally posted by Ride Madone
                  It does not matter.An AR is the very best and safest weapon to use for home defence.

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                  • #10
                    Tasty
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1829

                    I really really like where this thread is going.
                    As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said "If the day does not require an AK, it is good."

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                    • #11
                      nd21
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 66

                      Originally posted by Tasty
                      I really really like where this thread is going.
                      Best. Thread. Highjack. Ever.

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                      • #12
                        762ch
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1121

                        Excellent, very nice arm rests

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                        • #13
                          acpbrain
                          Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 266

                          truncated cones ???

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                          • #14
                            k1dude
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2009
                            • 15217

                            Pointy elbows.
                            "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

                            "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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                            • #15
                              RamonSJC
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1532

                              Chichis Christ!
                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
                              ~Albert Einstein

                              "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
                              ~Thomas Jefferson

                              All I have in this world is my ball$ and my word, and I don't break them for no one.
                              ~Scarface

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