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[ChuckDizzle]

Who's to say that the UK's gun laws are causally related to their low number of homicides?

[Mitch]

"The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world. There were 0.04 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010. Gun homicides accounted for 2.4% of all homicides in the year 2009."

The UK had a low rate of firearm homicide even before gun bans. It is a less violent society than the USA and always has been (though far more violent than, say, Germany).

Different countries are . . . different.

Socially and historically, the US has more in common with other Western Hemisphere countries than it does with any European country. Compare and contrast homicide rates in Latin America and the US as well as gun laws.


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[zfields]

The UK had a low rate of firearm homicide even before gun bans. It is a less violent society than the USA and always has been (though far more violent than, say, Germany).

Different countries are . . . different.

Socially and historically, the US has more in common with other Western Hemisphere countries than it does with any European country. Compare and contrast homicide rates in Latin America and the US as well as gun laws.


What do I win?

Violence isn't just measured by murders. Compare a composite of violent crimes.

Raw numbers, last time I looked was around 4x higher. You have to remember they have a much less forgiving attitude towards assault then we do, so it's still not a 100% fair comparison.


Fwiw op, I think your question is a bit too loaded to make this a real exercise of developing arguments/counter arguments.

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[ChuckDizzle]

Violence isn't just measured by murders. Compare a composite of violent crimes.

Raw numbers, last time I looked was around 4x higher. You have to remember they have a much less forgiving attitude towards assault then we do, so it's still not a 100% fair comparison.

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I guess I'm in the weird camp where I would rather be beaten up for my wallet four times than shot and killed for it once.

[zfields]

I guess I'm in the weird camp where I would rather be beaten up for my wallet four times than shot and killed for it once.

Your assuming that most murders are in commission of a robbery.

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[Powder_Keg]

Here's a YouTube video that compares crime rates, including the USA vs UK.

http://youtu.be/Ooa98FHuaU0

[Mitch]

Here's a YouTube video that compares crime rates, including the USA vs UK.

http://youtu.be/Ooa98FHuaU0

How is it even relevant to compare the US to the UK? They are completely different countries with markedly different histories.