Next best option for LTC?

[1bulletBarney]

On a job a while back, was given a "safety trincket", a nice thin metal lock blade knife. Very easy to open one handed with a 3" blade, carries very comfortable in my back pocket.

Part of my daily routine is to take a nice long walk in the park. Today on my walk I came to a isolated area with a service road access to rather large lawn area surrounded by trees. Cant see the lawn area from the barracaded service road entrance.

As I get to the lawn area, a guy was playin fetch with his pit bull about 80 yrds from me. Pit bull sees me, drops stick and charges straight to me at a full sprint. I stop, get knife from my back pocket and wait...I'm at defcon 1, not knowing if this dog is gonna maul me or lick me to death.

Everything went ok. Pit bull came to me and retreated when his owner called him. This was a very scary situation that could have went really bad. I sure hope that my county goes shall issue some day. For now, knife is next best option.

[barrage]

Maybe the knife WAS the best option for you in that situation.

Was the dog aggressive when it got to you?

[1bulletBarney]

Maybe the knife WAS the best option for you in that situation.

Was the dog aggressive when it got to you?

No, dog was ok, he sure looked mean tho... wish owners would obey leash laws...

[AK5.56]

I understand that Pit bulls can be big and intimidating looking and the dog definitely should have been on a leash ,but would you have shared this story if it was a golden retriever or lab that came running over to you? Just because YOU were scared, doesn't mean pit bulls are scary or mean. Think about the message your sending about the breed.

[1bulletBarney]

I understand that Pit bulls can be big and intimidating looking and the dog definitely should have been on a leash ,but would you have shared this story if it was a golden retriever or lab that came running over to you? Just because YOU were scared, doesn't mean pit bulls are scary or mean. Think about the message your sending about the breed.

Yes, I was VERY scared. Years ago I seen a german shepard maul a mail man, was a bloody mess. If YOU dont like that I call out a dog by breed, thats YOUR problem...

[AK5.56]

You are right.

As a dog lover, It is my problem that people wrongfully stereotype this breed as something its not.

But as a member on a gun form I would think you would understand and be somewhat sympathetic because we deal with a similar situation:

Its the same mentality that people say AR15s are scary big black guns.

[valdier]

The worst thing we do as a society is ignore science for "emotion".

Being a dog lover does nothing to change the science that pit bulls are by far the most dangerous breed of domestic dog.

http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/31-year-summary-chart-pit-bull-attack-trends.pdf

http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2013.pdf

It takes almost 0 skill with excel to see dog population to bite ratio. The only domestic dog breed that mauls, kills, and bites more people than the pitbull as a percentage of population, is the wolf-hybrid.

Pitbulls are an aggressive and unpredictable dog breed and the *only* known domestic dog breed to randomly turn on their owners unprovoked and kill or maul them, other than wolf-hybrids. Between 2006 and 2008, pit bulls were responsible for killing 6 senior citizens, their owners, on their own property. In fact... they were responsible for 59% of all dog related deaths involved pit bulls and 81% of off-property deaths were pit bulls that got out of their yard and killed random people that offered no threat.

I would be a lot more likely to shoot a charging pit bull over a golden retriever, they don't have a factual reputation for aggressively killing people.

That is science. Lets keep opinion out of facts.

[AK5.56]

Even worse for society is selective facts and not looking at the bigger picture

http://mabbr.org/pit-bull-ownership/the-truth-about-pit-bulls/

There is no "science" as you claimed to be quoting that shows the pit bull breed randomly turns against humans.

[Doheny]

....I'm at defcon 5, not knowing if this dog is gonna maul me or lick me to death....

FWIW, DEFCON 5 is the lowest level of readiness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON

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[valdier]

Even worse for society is selective facts and not looking at the bigger picture

http://mabbr.org/pit-bull-ownership/the-truth-about-pit-bulls/

There is no "science" as you claimed to be quoting that shows the pit bull breed randomly turns against humans.

You mean other than the clear statistics, the agreement by the CDC, the complete breakdown of the information and the raw factual data explaining who and what the bites were? Btw, the links I provided were data and bites tracked over a 30 year period.

Let me guess though... you didn't actually read any of it? I didn't post anything from an anti-pit bull site... I posted factual dog bite statistics from a pro-animal safety group.

You are posting from about the most possibly biased site without factual reference to data that you possibly could.

It is akin to using MSNBC as an unbiased opinion site for Obama.

[SacTown]

Pepper spray may be a good option if you need some protection against a loose/vicious dog. Also a good solid walking stick is probably wise to have. Nothing says down boy like a swift whack across the head.

[1bulletBarney]

FWIW, DEFCON 5 is the lowest level of readiness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON

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I stand corrected...

[Doheny]

I stand corrected...

I used to get it backwards too!


Sent from my iPhone; pardon any typos.

[AK5.56]

You mean other than the clear statistics, the agreement by the CDC, the complete breakdown of the information and the raw factual data explaining who and what the bites were? Btw, the links I provided were data and bites tracked over a 30 year period.

Let me guess though... you didn't actually read any of it? I didn't post anything from an anti-pit bull site... I posted factual dog bite statistics from a pro-animal safety group.

You are posting from about the most possibly biased site without factual reference to data that you possibly could.

It is akin to using MSNBC as an unbiased opinion site for Obama.

I did read it and it may appear you however didn't. Let me explain:

Dogbites.org is a amateur website owned and written by solely one woman, Collen Lynn, whose original intention was to ban certain breeds deemed too dangerous to own as she stated in her original "about us" section on her website.

About the founder

Colleen Lynn resides in Austin, Texas and operates Lynn Media Group. On June 17th, 2007, she was attacked for approximately 5-seconds by a leashed pit bull while jogging in her former Seattle neighborhood. She was hospitalized for two days at Harborview Medical Center after undergoing surgery to repair a severe bone fracture. Four months later, she launched DogsBite.org. Learn more about Colleen in her four year anniversary blog post about her attack.

As it not being a anti pit-bull website this is their first mission statement

We advocate
1.Pit bull ban
A breed ban is the most proactive policy that can be undertaken regarding the pit bull problem. A ban saves the most human lives by preventing attacks before they occur. By criminalizing pit bull breeding, a ban saves countless pit bulls from systematic euthanization and dramatically reduces the number of pit bulls used for dogfighting.

If you look at where they got their facts, half the resources are from anti pit bull sources

The facts I provided are backed strongly by the ACF (American Canine Foundation) which is one of the biggest foundations for canines in America

Here is their link which has a lot of great information and backs up what I was trying to say with the first resource I provided.

There is no scientific process available to identify the American Pit Bull Terrier and over 30 breeds that look like the Pit Bull. We find
the media only reports what they call Pit Bull attacks labeling dogs that are not even related to the American Pit Bull Terrier. Of the
fatal dog attacks in the last 40 years very few dogs labeled as Pit Bulls were actually purebred American Pit Bull Terriers registered
with dog registries with pedigrees.

[ChrisC]

I've only been bitten by one dog in my life and it was a wiener dog, I hate those things almost as much as I hate chihuahuas. I have known a lot of pits and have never had an issue with any of them. And I grew up in gang areas down south where they loved to make pits mean by being stupid owners, and that is the problem 99% of the time. Stupid owners that get a pit and make them mean to make themselves look tough.