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  • scott1976
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 2

    DROS and then a waiting period?

    I purchased (I think) a consigned Over/Under a couple days ago. The clerk at the shop told me the gun couldn't be DROSed until August 15th and then I could start the 10 day waiting period. That would be fine if I wasn't going to be on vacation until the 20th. That means I'll be picking up my gun the day before dove season. Is this really the case or can I begin the waiting period sooner than the 15th?

    I sure hope this gun shoots straight.
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    domokun
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    • Apr 2008
    • 3525

    The 10 day waiting period starts when the FFL enters the DROS data into the system. If you want to pick it up sooner, you'll have to convince the shop to start the DROS process earlier than the 15th as stated. There isn't any other way around this short of a few other exceptions that most people don't qualify for.
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    • #3
      heavyrecoil
      Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 386

      If your waiting period starts on the 15th of August, you should be able to pick the gun up on the 25th. Dove season starts on September 1st. This would give you at least a week before the season opens to do some testing at the range. If you're coming back from your vacation on the 20th, I'm not sure what the problem is. Did the folks at the store say that you needed to come in again on the 15th to start a DROS?

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      • #4
        ke6guj
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        IIRC, there is a deal with cosigned firearms having a 30-day hold to check if stolen, or something like that. I dunno if the hold is 30-days before it can be DROSed, or 30-days before it can be picked up. The dealer may not want to start DROS on a gun that may turn up stolen, and have you be out the DROS fees. But if the 30-day deal relates to pickup date instead of DROS date, you may be able to talk to the dealer and get him to start the DROS if you are willing to lose the DROS.
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        • #5
          ke6guj
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          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by heavyrecoil
          If your waiting period starts on the 15th of August, you should be able to pick the gun up on the 25th. Dove season starts on September 1st. This would give you at least a week before the season opens to do some testing at the range. If you're coming back from your vacation on the 20th, I'm not sure what the problem is. Did the folks at the store say that you needed to come in again on the 15th to start a DROS?
          It appears that the OP will already be gone on vacation before the 15th, so he would not be able to start DROS until he comes back on the 20th.
          Jack



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          • #6
            heavyrecoil
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 386

            ke6guj- I understand about the vacation, which is why I asked the OP if the store had told him he needed to come in again sometime around the 15th to start the DROS and wait period. I agree with you that, if he hasn't already, the OP should ask the dealer if it's possible for him to run everything through the computer now, and then release the gun to him any time after the 15th -OR- maybe collect all of his information now (especially since it sounds like they already took his cash) and then input it into the system when the consignment is cleared for sale on August 15th.
            Last edited by heavyrecoil; 07-31-2008, 4:48 PM.

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            • #7
              scott1976
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 2

              Correct, they already have my cash, I paid the DROS fee and everything. They told me I'd have to come back to do the paperwork after DROS was started. Which is supposed to be the 15th. It seems like I ought to be able to fill out the papers now and they could input the info when the consignment is clear.

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              • #8
                tenpercentfirearms
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2005
                • 13007

                Originally posted by scott1976
                Correct, they already have my cash, I paid the DROS fee and everything. They told me I'd have to come back to do the paperwork after DROS was started. Which is supposed to be the 15th. It seems like I ought to be able to fill out the papers now and they could input the info when the consignment is clear.
                You can't do the paperwork after the DROS is started because you would already have had to do the paperwork in order to start the DROS. However, if they want to do their paperwork this way, that will work for you.

                If they start your DROS on the 15th and want you to come fill out more forms on the 20th, that is fine, you will be 5 days into your ten day wait.

                It sounds to me likee a consignment issue. That is why I am not doing consignments yet.
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                • #9
                  Moonclip
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4390

                  Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                  It sounds to me likee a consignment issue. That is why I am not doing consignments yet.
                  I'd get in to them when you can. Since you can't buy many/most off list handguns for resale unless out of state (are you doing this?) it means you have to turn away customers that want to legally sell these type handguns.

                  I always thought most dealers should or do welcome consignments, making 20-25% or more on a gun you didn't have to put a penny out of of your own to acquire seems a winning deal.

                  The gun shops that get the most business from me generally have a lively and interesting used handgun case.
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                  • #10
                    tenpercentfirearms
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 13007

                    Originally posted by Moonclip
                    I'd get in to them when you can. Since you can't buy many/most off list handguns for resale unless out of state (are you doing this?) it means you have to turn away customers that want to legally sell these type handguns.

                    I always thought most dealers should or do welcome consignments, making 20-25% or more on a gun you didn't have to put a penny out of of your own to acquire seems a winning deal.

                    The gun shops that get the most business from me generally have a lively and interesting used handgun case.
                    That isn't the only reason I don't do them. Come by my shop sometime and you will see the other reason. I am out of room!
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                    • #11
                      Moonclip
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4390

                      That does suck with your space issue. Maybe you could have them in the back and just put a list out with the guns you don't have display room for. Ades does this sometimes. He has a small shop also. So what do you do when say some lil old lady comes in with like a older S&W mod 29 she wants to sell,refer her to another shop?
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                      7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                      9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                      .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                      .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                      20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                      • #12
                        dfletcher
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14789

                        Originally posted by scott1976
                        I purchased (I think) a consigned Over/Under a couple days ago. The clerk at the shop told me the gun couldn't be DROSed until August 15th and then I could start the 10 day waiting period. That would be fine if I wasn't going to be on vacation until the 20th. That means I'll be picking up my gun the day before dove season. Is this really the case or can I begin the waiting period sooner than the 15th?

                        I sure hope this gun shoots straight.
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                        • #13
                          Army
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3915

                          Originally posted by Moonclip
                          That does suck with your space issue. Maybe you could have them in the back and just put a list out with the guns you don't have display room for.
                          Back? Wes is lucky he has enough room for the front door to mostly open
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                          • #14
                            FortCourageArmory
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1001

                            Lots of locations (like mine) have local ordinances about used firearms. A lot of the cities use the "Second Hand Dealer" provisions on consignment guns. When I take in a consignment, I have to fill out a three-part "pawn ticket". One part goes to the customer, one to the local PD and I retain one. The city mandates that all consignment guns be held for 30 days to allow the city PD to check on the firearm's status. After thirty days, I am free to release the gun to a buyer.

                            So, let's say you see something in my case that you want to buy. It's a consignment with a release date (I write them on the back of the price tag). If you want to buy that gun, you can pay for it now but I can't start the DROS until 10 days before the release date at the earliest. I'm more than happy to put it in the vault and hold onto it for you until the 30 days is up. But if I release it too early, the city can revoke me Second Hand Dealer permit and I could no longer sell consignment guns.
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                            • #15
                              cush
                              Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 111

                              I ran into this at Turners. Fun part is two Turners handle it differently.
                              1st time - can't release for 30 days so come in about 20+ days later to start dros. Picked up in ~30 days, from seller bringing it in.
                              2nd store - "We can't do that, if it comes back stolen you would be out the cost of the dros." Does make some sense. Picked up in ~ 40 days, from seller bringing it in.
                              The first store had said they would cover the cost of the dros if stolen. Didn't have that in writing though. No problems so didn't test that issue.
                              -cush

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