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  • Shasta Frog
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 740

    Tulammo will blow up my gun?

    Now I've heard all the stories about how steel cases/ jacketed ammo can be hard on a gun(extractor, chamber and the like). I know Steel is harder than brass and copper so I do believe that to an extent. But today at my local indoor range, Nice Shot Redding, Ca, The owner told me that Tulammo being steel jacketed, which I thought it was copper but I was wrong, would not compress and therefore the pressures will be a lot higher and blow up my barrel.

    I have not heard this before. FUD? Maybe, I don't know.

    Does this idea that the bullet cannot compress can cause high enough pressures to at some point blow up a barrel?

    What about +P ammo, wouldn't that have higher pressures? And wouldn't that harm my gun if Tulammo can?

    On another note my new RIA 1911 Tactical I got yesterday kicked but and not 1 issue with 150 rounds I shot today. This gun is awesome
  • #2
    Reelemup
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1392

    Originally posted by Shasta Frog
    Now I've heard all the stories about how steel cases/ jacketed ammo can be hard on a gun(extractor, chamber and the like). I know Steel is harder than brass and copper so I do believe that to an extent. But today at my local indoor range, Nice Shot Redding, Ca, The owner told me that Tulammo being steel jacketed, which I thought it was copper but I was wrong, would not compress and therefore the pressures will be a lot higher and blow up my barrel.

    I have not heard this before. FUD? Maybe, I don't know.

    Does this idea that the bullet cannot compress can cause high enough pressures to at some point blow up a barrel?

    What about +P ammo, wouldn't that have higher pressures? And wouldn't that harm my gun if Tulammo can?

    On another note my new RIA 1911 Tactical I got yesterday kicked but and not 1 issue with 150 rounds I shot today. This gun is awesome
    I f the ammo would blow up guns they would not make them. Tell your range master he is not very knowledgeable
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    • #3
      uhlan1
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2012
      • 6217

      FUD
      Carry on and enjoy your new toy.
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      • #4
        Antagon3
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 722

        F-U-D

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        • #5
          uhlan1
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2012
          • 6217

          FUD
          Carry on and enjoy your new toy.
          "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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          • #6
            Peter.Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 7351

            There's a difference between steel case and steel jacket.
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            • #7
              d4v0s
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 1661

              Originally posted by Shasta Frog
              Now I've heard all the stories about how steel cases/ jacketed ammo can be hard on a gun(extractor, chamber and the like). I know Steel is harder than brass and copper so I do believe that to an extent. But today at my local indoor range, Nice Shot Redding, Ca, The owner told me that Tulammo being steel jacketed, which I thought it was copper but I was wrong, would not compress and therefore the pressures will be a lot higher and blow up my barrel.

              I have not heard this before. FUD? Maybe, I don't know.

              Does this idea that the bullet cannot compress can cause high enough pressures to at some point blow up a barrel?

              What about +P ammo, wouldn't that have higher pressures? And wouldn't that harm my gun if Tulammo can?

              On another note my new RIA 1911 Tactical I got yesterday kicked but and not 1 issue with 150 rounds I shot today. This gun is awesome
              He got confused trying to talk about two things he has no knowledge of. The WHOLE ENTIRE ISSUE with steel cased ammo is this. Steel doesn't expand like brass to fill the chamber, allowing more pressure to escape (minimal really) and blow lots of nice crap back into the weapons action.

              Fire 500 rounds of Tula, WWB, and then something nice like Remington UMC. You will see that there is a slight graduation upwards through each brand of cleanliness in your action. YEARS of first hand experience tells me that steel cased ammo will not harm your gun, aside from needing some additional cleaning.
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              • #8
                GunWhore75
                Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 141

                Originally posted by Shasta Frog
                Now I've heard all the stories about how steel cases/ jacketed ammo can be hard on a gun(extractor, chamber and the like). I know Steel is harder than brass and copper so I do believe that to an extent. But today at my local indoor range, Nice Shot Redding, Ca, The owner told me that Tulammo being steel jacketed, which I thought it was copper but I was wrong, would not compress and therefore the pressures will be a lot higher and blow up my barrel.

                I have not heard this before. FUD? Maybe, I don't know.

                Does this idea that the bullet cannot compress can cause high enough pressures to at some point blow up a barrel?

                What about +P ammo, wouldn't that have higher pressures? And wouldn't that harm my gun if Tulammo can?

                On another note my new RIA 1911 Tactical I got yesterday kicked but and not 1 issue with 150 rounds I shot today. This gun is awesome
                Wow... That range master needs to go back to school & study physics. LOL!

                For starters, it won't blow you gun apart. But if you have an AR15 platform or any non-Eastern European platforms, I would recommend you to avoid using steel case ammo like Tula, Wolf and Brown Bear.

                The reason for this is that AR platforms and non-Eastern European platforms have much tighter tolerances than Eastern European guns and with the steel casings, you run the risk of a casing jamming or breaking off inside the chamber. Now that is not to say it will happen. But it can. I've had it happen to a few of my AR platforms and it is not fun using a shell extractor to get a broken case out. So play it safe and use brass cased ammo to minimize having headaches in the future. I hope this helps.

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                • #9
                  9mmrevolver
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1477

                  The lacquered crap will screw up your gun. I only run it out of aks and the like. I ran a bunch through my mini some 15 years ago and screwed it up. The lacquere builds up in the chamber which starts to make the case stick in the chamber. This was happening to me. Eventually sheering off the ear that keeps the extractor in the bolt off. Don't think I'd call it a blow up but ****ed it up right nice. The Tula without the lacquer I shoot in just about anything. Never did find out how to clean that crap out of the chamber

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                  • #10
                    robcoe
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 8685

                    Originally posted by Shasta Frog
                    Now I've heard all the stories about how steel cases/ jacketed ammo can be hard on a gun(extractor, chamber and the like). I know Steel is harder than brass and copper so I do believe that to an extent. But today at my local indoor range, Nice Shot Redding, Ca, The owner told me that Tulammo being steel jacketed, which I thought it was copper but I was wrong, would not compress and therefore the pressures will be a lot higher and blow up my barrel.

                    I have not heard this before. FUD? Maybe, I don't know.

                    Does this idea that the bullet cannot compress can cause high enough pressures to at some point blow up a barrel?

                    What about +P ammo, wouldn't that have higher pressures? And wouldn't that harm my gun if Tulammo can?

                    On another note my new RIA 1911 Tactical I got yesterday kicked but and not 1 issue with 150 rounds I shot today. This gun is awesome
                    Not really FUD, he just had an overpressure of stupid inside his head and had to let some out.

                    if the round was solid steel you would have that kind of problem, but nobody(I have ever seen) makes any solid steel rounds.

                    What they do is use a mild steel instead of copper for the jacket(because it's cheaper), but there is no more risk of an overpressure than with any other ammo type. What it does do is wear your barrel a bit more than copper, but it's mostly found in old milsurp com-bloc ammo.
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                    • #11
                      Shasta Frog
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 740

                      Ya I'm with you guys on this one.

                      The owner was specifically talking about the bullet being steel jacketed as being the issue. Said something about most guns having a polygonal barrel and couldn't take the pressure of the round because the bullet wouldnt compress.

                      He said he had a barrel somewhere to show me. I kinda laughed at him and had him go look for it. After a few minutes I told him I'd just take his word for it. Lol

                      I got several boxes of Tulammo .45 and I'm going to shoot every damn one of them.

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        Ask him where he got his engineering degree and his supposed data. Then ask him why he is working at a low paying job when he is obviously a talented metallurgist.
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                        • #13
                          bigbearbear
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5378

                          Not according to James Yeager, he runs training classes which seem to be pretty popular and have lots of students. See his video on this topic:

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                          • #14
                            hambam105
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7083

                            For a few years now there has been some guys driving big white trucks to California guns shows and selling hundreds of thousands of steel cased ammunition to an unsuspecting AR, AK and 9mm shooting population.

                            When I start seeing 55 gallon drums full of blown-up guns caused by said ammunition at the range I'll be the first to break out the J yeaker Kool aid at your range and take the first drink.

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                            • #15
                              Shasta Frog
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 740

                              Good vid Bigbearbear, I'll be checking out his other videos now. Seemed pretty realistic from what I could tell.

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