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  • fullmd
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 294

    vertical shoulder holsters.

    are vertical shoulder holsters any good? been seeing more and more pop up online. i would just like to get other peoples opinions.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44677

    They have applications.

    A number of folks complain that the action of drawing 'sweeps' nearby people, and is therefore unsafe.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      Bruce
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2183

      Originally posted by Librarian
      They have applications.

      A number of folks complain that the action of drawing 'sweeps' nearby people, and is therefore unsafe.
      Any form of cross-draw "sweeps"and is not necessarily "unsafe".

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44677

        Originally posted by Bruce
        Any form of cross-draw "sweeps"and is not necessarily "unsafe".
        So you, and I think I, are not among that 'number of folks'.
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          Bruce
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2183

          Originally posted by Librarian
          So you, and I think I, are not among that 'number of folks'.
          If you're asking if I think cross draw, or drawing from a vertical shoulder holster is unsafe, no I do not think it is unsafe.

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          • #6
            ldsnet
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1420

            Aside from the draw safety aspect, a shoulder holster has some advantages over other carry options; if you spend a large time in a seated position (where gear on your belt is uncomfortable or won't fit due to safety belts or seat requirements) the shoulder holster moves the weapon above the waist line and is still accessible while seated.
            A huge down side: To be concealed you must ALWAYS wear somekind of jacket or over-shirt. If this is not a problem for your wardrobe and lifestyle then its an option.

            I find a IWB tucked under my shirt to be a better concealment alternative, but while off-roading in AZ, I love my shoulder holster; keeps the weapon close to my body and does not interfere with the seat or 4 point harness. A simple Hawaiin shirt or fishing shirt as a cover garment works to keep the sheeple unaware (not that it matters in AZ)

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            • #7
              Teeko
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 2698

              + 1 for unsafe

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              • #8
                kustomkat1950
                airplane guy/Coastal GA
                CGN Contributor
                • Mar 2011
                • 1853

                Just dont buy a el cheapo rig like I did. My 1911 doesn't fit it right so much so the darn thing slipped out from under the snap clip and fell out. I can't stand seeing my 1911 dropped. After extensive therapy, I think I am better now.

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                • #9
                  WARTFROG
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 272

                  If you sit down a lot and want to conceal under a coat, it's an option. More Miami Vice than anything else.

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by ldsnet
                    Aside from the draw safety aspect, a shoulder holster has some advantages over other carry options; if you spend a large time in a seated position (where gear on your belt is uncomfortable or won't fit due to safety belts or seat requirements) the shoulder holster moves the weapon above the waist line and is still accessible while seated.
                    A huge down side: To be concealed you must ALWAYS wear somekind of jacket or over-shirt. If this is not a problem for your wardrobe and lifestyle then its an option.

                    I find a IWB tucked under my shirt to be a better concealment alternative, but while off-roading in AZ, I love my shoulder holster; keeps the weapon close to my body and does not interfere with the seat or 4 point harness. A simple Hawaiin shirt or fishing shirt as a cover garment works to keep the sheeple unaware (not that it matters in AZ)


                    Also be aware that draw times will be slower than drawing from a IWB/OWB holster.
                    Last edited by Quiet; 01-28-2014, 8:31 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      Originally posted by kustomkat1950
                      Just dont buy a el cheapo rig like I did. My 1911 doesn't fit it right so much so the darn thing slipped out from under the snap clip and fell out. I can't stand seeing my 1911 dropped. After extensive therapy, I think I am better now.

                      Good:

                      Discover our high-quality leather gun holsters crafted for both concealed and open carry. Ideal for police, military, hunters, and shooting range enthusiasts.


                      Bad:

                      http://www.amazon.com/AirSplat-Shoul.../dp/B0006N07YU
                      +1 on using a quality holster

                      I watch my Glock 22 fall off the roof of 3 story building because it fell out of an inexpensive (under $50) nylon shoulder rig.

                      Galco makes very good shoulder holsters.
                      Last edited by Quiet; 01-28-2014, 8:34 AM.
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                      • #12
                        YZINGERR
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1567

                        Vertical is better at concealment and the hand on the same side can draw too.
                        I have an uncle mikes unit that i used to use once in a while
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                        • #13
                          halifax
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4440

                          If you don't mind waiting Alessi still makes a quality rig.
                          Jim


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                          • #14
                            Librarian
                            Admin and Poltergeist
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44677

                            Originally posted by Bruce
                            If you're asking if I think cross draw, or drawing from a vertical shoulder holster is unsafe, no I do not think it is unsafe.
                            No, I'm saying that we appear to agree that cross draw is not necessarily unsafe.

                            But lots of people do think that; that is the most common criticism I have seen of shoulder-holsters.
                            Last edited by Librarian; 01-28-2014, 11:08 AM.
                            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                            • #15
                              LCU1670
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2865

                              To use it in a more safe manner, support arm up, so you don't cover your arm, then draw out, down and up. The only person(s) covered would be anyone DIRECTLY behind you, hopefully you had time to position yourself so no one was behind you.
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