Range Bag Medical Kit

[thatryan]

Does anyone keep any type of medical supplies in their range bag? If so, suggestions for putting one together? I was googling around and came across this... http://www.rescue-essentials.com/ran...al-kit-add-on/ Anyone have any kits similar?

[EMPTYITOUT]

Tagged for interest. I started packing Israeli trauma bandages that could possibly be used just to stabilize a wound for transport. Ended up using the one I had on hand on a guy who cut his shin open to the bone (non-firearm related). Worked Good! Even got props from the ER attendee!

[Tacit Blue]

It has alot of useful stuff, the Tourniquet and NPA (airway adjutant) dressings, etc. Another consideration is to add a triangle dressing so you can also immobilize a injured arm. This kit appears to be designed around treating for hypovolmeic shock (loss of blood), so I can understand why it wouldn't be in there.


I think its overpriced and you can assemble most it on your own. It should also include both the OPA and NPA, not just one. ( airway adjutants) It also has a pocket mask, CPR ( If they become apenic and stop breathing)

The gauze petroleum dressings are important for abdominal wounds, because when you apply the dressing if you have to take it off. A regular dressing could stick to tissue/organs.

Chest wounds, take a occlusive dressing and make it into a "3 sided" flutter valve. That will help with a collapsed lung. ( lift on exhalation)

Always use direct depressure to control the bleed, pressure bandages, then the CAT. If its a spurting wound, laterally put your finger in to stop it, until it stops or until helps arrive.

[Germz]

honestly for bullet wounds in an expedient situation...gauze on a roll and tampons.
sounds funny but i always carried a couple tampons on patrol in Afghanistan. luckily never had to use one!

[WARTFROG]

I have GSW gear (CAT/blow out patches)along with a ton of other items, but think I've used burn gel more than anything! Hot barrels.

[EMPTYITOUT]

I've noticed that there are some VERY well medically trained CalGunners here. These threads and your comments are always so truly helpful. Thanks guys. Keep being so Bad^ss! Good topic OP.

[Reelemup]

I like ...lidocaine shots...needles and threads....alcohol..baseball bats for the jumpy patients...bandages and ropes to tie them down since I can't get tranquilizing darts to shoot my friends if they get injured .

[Anti-Hero]

It has alot of useful stuff, the Tourniquet and NPA (airway adjutant) dressings, etc. Another consideration is to add a triangle dressing so you can also immobilize a injured arm. This kit appears to be designed around treating for hypovolmeic shock (loss of blood), so I can understand why it wouldn't be in there.


I think its overpriced and you can assemble most it on your own. It should also include both the OPA and NPA, not just one. ( airway adjutants) It also has a pocket mask, CPR ( If they become apenic and stop breathing)

The gauze petroleum dressings are important for abdominal wounds, because when you apply the dressing if you have to take it off. A regular dressing could stick to tissue/organs.

Chest wounds, take a occlusive dressing and make it into a "3 sided" flutter valve. That will help with a collapsed lung. ( lift on exhalation)

OPAs and NPAs are best left for people trained to use them and when to recognize a contraindication. Especially if a bag-valve mask and suction device isn't present. Same with occlusive dressings, how would a layman know when they're seeing a hemothorax, pneumothorax or hemopneumothorax vs a true SCW.

The only medical procedure they should be performing is CPR, AED and/or direct pressure.

Just my 0.02c

[Divernhunter]

I always carried a sharp knife when hunting for any accidents.
The hospital said my buddy might have lived if I did not gut him before bringing him in.
Live and learn

[CK_32]

As a prior EMS (short lived) I actually don't usually run with a med kit. When I go to a public range I only assume they have basic med kits on hand. But when I go camping or desert shooting I bring very limited med supplies mostly bandage, eye solution basically most of the stuff you would find in a basic med kit with a few extras like quick clot and some other things like advil and stuff.

Being that I was prior EMT they actually teach you how to make due with limited or "make due" supplies. So if needed I could probably make a splint or temp treat a small wound if needed until actual medical could make it on scene. Also most of my shoot buddies are prior or still EMT and or Fire guys I know if something goes down well be in good hands. Kinda


But I'm lazy.. I'm sure there are guys running with better med kits than I do again because I'm lazy that's one extra thing to pack.

But that said a poorly trained person with a med kit is a hell of a lot more useless than a EMS unit with limited supplies. If your going to run a med kit. KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!


I've witnessed and been a part of several incidences off duty where I've come to someones aid and some idiot pushes me or other medical trained people on scene out of the way to be the hero and have NO clue wtf they are doing and making the situation worse.

So please for the people running med kits take a basic EMS course or keep up with simple medical procedures!

[Tacit Blue]

To the above posters. Yes you are correct 100%, you should at least be EMR ( minimum) if your going to run a bag like the op posted.

The airway adjuncts, you need knowledge of how they function. While many may not have suction for a hemothorax. If you lay them on their side effected side. They'll be less likely of a chance of aspiration (choking)

Yes, suction machines won't always be around. But if you can, please take at minimum at First Aid class, or the EMR ( emergency medical responder) class, it's shorter than a EMT class and you can utilize airways and oxygen. 51 hours long, teaches how to handle trauma also.

http://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/program-highlights/cpr-first-aid/professional-rescuers

[Librarian]

I bring one of these, and the usual assortment of 'owie' repairs. Nothing in the kit in the OP except the airway is interesting or extraordinary.

Gunshot wounds - GSW - are pretty rare at shooting ranges; nicks and cuts are the common things.

[SMarquez]

OPAs and NPAs are best left for people trained to use them and when to recognize a contraindication. Especially if a bag-valve mask and suction device isn't present. Same with occlusive dressings, how would a layman know when they're seeing a hemothorax, pneumothorax or hemopneumothorax?

The only medical procedure they should be performing is CPR, AED and/or direct pressure.

Just my 0.02c

I pretty much agree with you first sentence but things like direct pressure, splinting, shock prevention are basic first aid stuff in a boy scout manual. A basic first aid class would be the most valuable investment.
As far as Hemo/pneumo I was taught we wouldn't be differentiating in the field, an x-ray or a chest tube is going to be a diagnosis.

[thatryan]

Thanks for the input, yeah I am not medically trained at all. Most I have is Red Cross first aid cert.

The kit I posted was just what I found looking for "range bag medical kit"

[boukca]

OP- Go to LA Rescue's website, they sell great bags that are stocked as well. www.larescue.com