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  • #16
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44661

    Originally posted by !@#$
    any restrictions on "weapons"?
    Depends. (Doesn't it always?)
    PC 646.93
    (c) Unless good cause is shown not to impose the following
    conditions, the judge shall impose as additional conditions of
    release on bail that:
    ...
    (3) The defendant shall not possess any firearms or other deadly
    or dangerous weapons.
    Other than that, either one has committed a felony that abrogates firearms possession, or one has not. I've never been privileged to read any terms of probation; I'm sure there's "boiler plate" for them that may include weapons other than firearms.
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    • #17
      Matt C
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 7128

      Originally posted by Librarian
      Depends. (Doesn't it always?)
      PC 646.93
      Other than that, either one has committed a felony that abrogates firearms possession, or one has not. I've never been privileged to read any terms of probation; I'm sure there's "boiler plate" for them that may include weapons other than firearms.
      Well, there are plenty of misdemeanors that result in a loss of gun rights in this state.
      I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

      The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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      • #18
        reyna12
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 161

        was it a 12020 that you got charged with?
        just my 2

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        • #19
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44661

          Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
          Well, there are plenty of misdemeanors that result in a loss of gun rights in this state.
          True. PC 12021
          (c) (1) Except as provided in subdivision (a) or paragraph (2) of
          this subdivision, any person who has been convicted of a misdemeanor
          violation of Section 71, 76, 136.1, 136.5, or 140, subdivision (d) of
          Section 148, Section 171b, 171c, 171d, 186.28, 240, 241, 242, 243,
          244.5, 245, 245.5, 246.3, 247, 273.5, 273.6, 417, 417.6, 422, 626.9,
          646.9, 12023, or 12024, subdivision (b) or (d) of Section 12034,
          Section 12040, subdivision (b) of Section 12072, subdivision (a) of
          former Section 12100, Section 12220, 12320, or 12590, or Section
          8100, 8101, or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, any
          firearm-related offense pursuant to Sections 871.5 and 1001.5 of the
          Welfare and Institutions Code, or of the conduct punished in
          paragraph (3) of subdivision (g) of Section 12072, and who, within 10
          years of the conviction, owns, purchases, receives, or has in his or
          her possession or under his or her custody or control, any firearm
          is guilty of a public offense, which shall be punishable by
          imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state
          prison, by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
          both that imprisonment and fine. The court, on forms prescribed by
          the Department of Justice, shall notify the department of persons
          subject to this subdivision. However, the prohibition in this
          paragraph may be reduced, eliminated, or conditioned as provided in
          paragraph (2) or (3).
          Seems like a lot (not all) of those are felonies but apparently may be knocked down to misdemeanors. Since those are 10-year prohibitions, it would be reasonable to conclude that probation for one of those would also include the firearms prohibition.

          But the PC does not seem to address things OTHER than firearms; I don't believe sentencing guidelines for courts would prohibit additional restrictions for probationers, but I don't know.
          Last edited by Librarian; 07-25-2008, 4:58 PM.
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          • #20
            CHS
            Moderator Emeritus
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Originally posted by hoffmang
            The only thing to be careful about is that if your using your driver's license to buy firearms the strange stages of your license can stop your DROS. The simplest solution is to just get a CA ID card too which will skip the DMV part of the DROS check.

            -Gene
            Hey Gene, would you care to elaborate on this? I'll also be at dinner tonight, so you're more than welcome to chat me up there.

            I'm really curious what would be on your license that could hold up a DROS, but wouldn't be attached to your ID.

            I've got a CDL and CID, and both have the exact same ID number on them, so I just assumed that either one of them ties into my DMV driving records.
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • #21
              BlackDrop50
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 1024

              I doubt it. You might get a call from the Sheriffs asking why you are trying to buy a gun.

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              • #22
                GuyW
                Banned
                • Dec 2002
                • 4298

                Buy a "Certificate of Eligibility" (if I have name correct) from CA DOJ to prove you can buy guns.

                It seems to me that a call from LE about something that "is" (might be) a violation of probation is a bad thing...
                Last edited by GuyW; 07-28-2008, 5:34 PM.

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                • #23
                  Guntech
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1722

                  Are you going to carry the gun this time?
                  " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
                  -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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                  • #24
                    RossRinSD
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2371

                    a DUI probation will not preclude you from purchasing a firearm.

                    After a DUI, you don't get a regular license back right away. You can drive, but when and where are restricted, so it isn't a full license. I can see where, when running a DROS, it might get kicked back because it isn't a true license. But when you get arrested and charged with a DUI, the arresting officer takes your license. Well, you surrender it anyways. Many guys will just get a state ID in one of their many visits to the DMV. You can still run a DROS with that ID. Pending DUI conviction, or post conviction and still on probation, will not stop your DROS.

                    Just to clarify a DUI misdemeanor/probation.

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                    • #25
                      Guntech
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1722

                      Originally posted by RossRinSD
                      a DUI probation will not preclude you from purchasing a firearm.

                      After a DUI, you don't get a regular license back right away. You can drive, but when and where are restricted, so it isn't a full license. I can see where, when running a DROS, it might get kicked back because it isn't a true license. But when you get arrested and charged with a DUI, the arresting officer takes your license. Well, you surrender it anyways. Many guys will just get a state ID in one of their many visits to the DMV. You can still run a DROS with that ID. Pending DUI conviction, or post conviction and still on probation, will not stop your DROS.

                      Just to clarify a DUI misdemeanor/probation.
                      No DL? what do you walk home with your rifles lol?
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                      -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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                      • #26
                        RossRinSD
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2371

                        You would hope that after being fined $2,000+ you'd take it easy for a while...

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