DROS Fee

[JosephP]

I recently purchase the M&P9 from local dealer and they charge me a dros fee of $25 and addition to that there's $10 Processing fee.
Is this processing fee normal even if it is not a PPT?

[toby]

yep

[big103]

No it`s not.

But as long as they don`t say, its part of DOJ fees and say it`s there fee they can do that.

I don`t like to use FFL that do that.

If they told you that the DOJ charges that fee then they can get in trouble.

[JosephP]

It says Dros Fee $25 and Processing Fee $10.
So I guess they just charge the $10 for their own fee.
I've been doing tons of transactions and never seen a dealer that charge their own processing fee.

[9_40_45]

The only place I've ever encountered an extra fee is the additional $5.00 fee that Turner's charges.

[ke6guj]

I recently purchase the M&P9 from local dealer and they charge me a dros fee of $25 and addition to that there's $10 Processing fee.
Is this processing fee normal even if it is not a PPT?

its normally done by all dealers, but some dealers do do that instead of pricing the guns with enough margin to cover their "costs" to paper a gun.

I did talk with a dealer at SHOT last week and due to the new DROS pickup procedures in the DES system, they had to hire an additional clerk at each of their stores just to process the pickup paperwork. He basically felt that he would lose money selling stuff like a $120 Crickett or Mosin. So, does he charge MSRP+ and have people ***** about him price gouging or does he institute a $5-10 processing fee to cover the new costs? Or not even stock them anymore if he loses money on each on he sells (yes, there are legit reasons to sell stuff under cost as a loss leader that could apply here)?

[19K]

if they charge you more than $10, you have a problem.

[ke6guj]

if they charge you more than $10, you have a problem.

and what problem would that be? why, in the OP's case, would $10 not be a problem but $11 would be?

[kayakbriang]

As long as a shop is up front about a fee like this I won't have hard feelings. When they tack one on at the end of a transaction. ...I won't be back.

[killmime1234]

and what problem would that be? why, in the OP's case, would $10 not be a problem but $11 would be?

I believe they were referring to CA PC 28055:

28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this
chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the
firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten
dollars ($10) per firearm.
(b) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or
transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for
the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690
and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6
and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in
Section 31650.
(c) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
(d) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from
charging a smaller fee.

[obiwan]

I believe they were referring to CA PC 28055:

Huh I was at a shop a couple of weeks ago that tagged on an additional $10 fee for PPT...

Same shop that says DOJ requires them to hold for 11 days not ten.

No signs, no verbal indication that these were their rules.

[Steve_In_29]

The only place I've ever encountered an extra fee is the additional $5.00 fee that Turner's charges.

IIRC Bass Pro tacks on a fee as well. I seem to remember seeing a sign stating the fee was reduced on additional weapons purchased at the same time.

[Steve_In_29]

Huh I was at a shop a couple of weeks ago that tagged on an additional $10 fee for PPT...

Same shop that says DOJ requires them to hold for 11 days not ten.

No signs, no verbal indication that these were their rules.

One thing the new rifle registration did was to prevent the "11 day" waits as the pick-up date/time is supplied by DOJ on the form now.

[BroncoBob]

One thing the new rifle registration did was to prevent the "11 day" waits as the pick-up date/time is supplied by DOJ on the form now.

Be interesting how the boys at Big 5 will handle this.......

[ke6guj]

I believe they were referring to CA PC 28055:

right, but that only applies to PPTs where the dealer can only charge $25 state DROS fee + up to $10 dealer fee, but in the OP's case, it was NOT a PPT so that $10 dealer fee limitation does not apply. The FFL is free to charge any dealer fee he wishes, provided that he does not represent it as a state DROS fee.

Huh I was at a shop a couple of weeks ago that tagged on an additional $10 fee for PPT...

Same shop that says DOJ requires them to hold for 11 days not ten.

No signs, no verbal indication that these were their rules.

so, it was a total of $35 for the PPT, $25 DROS + $10 dealer fee, or are you saying that they charged you $45 with a second $10 fee for PPT?