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  • 2bits
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 34

    Illegal to thread a muzzle???

    Hey guys. I just got off the horn with Byrd's Gunsmithing in San Berdoo. I'm looking for someone to do a simple threading job. I just want a standard 1/2 x 28 thread on a .22 rifle muzzle but my regular guy is so busy it could be 2 weeks to get it done. Another local guy wants double the price since I made the mistake of letting on that I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the other smith.
    Well then I called Byrd's only to have him tell me it's illegal to thread a semi auto of any size shape or caliber in Sunny Californy, be it rifle or pistol. Well I don't doubt his word but it comes as quite a surprise to hear, as I've seen multitudes of threaded semi autos and never heard of such a ruling before. I was wondering if anyone could co-sign that statement as it never hurts to have a second oppinion before accepting it as the gospel truth.
  • #2
    thenodnarb
    Veteran Member
    • May 2009
    • 2603

    He's wrong

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      Call Randall Rausch ar 15 barrels. He is on here a lot.

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      • #4
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 12407

        Died with the sunset of the 1994 Clinton Ban (in 2004).

        No CA law against rifle/longgun muzzle threads (but there is a CA ban on semi-auto pistol muzzle threads, other than revolvers).
        -----------------------------------------------
        Originally posted by Librarian
        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #5
          BKinzey
          OT Banned
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 4390

          Legal for a rifle. See "4A" for pistols.

          Penal Code 12276.1
          (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
          (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
          (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
          (B) A thumbhole stock.
          (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
          (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
          (E) A flash suppressor.
          (F) A forward pistol grip.
          (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
          (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
          (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
          (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
          (B) A second handgrip.
          (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
          (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
          (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
          (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
          (A) A folding or telescoping stock.
          (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
          (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
          (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
          Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
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          • #6
            Chaos47
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 6615

            Hell its even legal to thread a pistol barrel or own one.
            Just not to have one installed (unless it has a permanent device over it)

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            • #7
              2bits
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 34

              I suspected as much! But I'm not one to argue as though educated on the subject if I'm not.
              The guy claims to have a letter sent by the DOJ to inform of the law. If so, I wonder how old it is!

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              • #8
                CK_32
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 14369

                Simple answer.

                Rifle - No

                Pistol - Yes
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                What's Your Caliber??


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                • #9
                  Artema
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3821

                  As people have said, rifle and revolver, thread up. Semi-auto pistol, assault weapon and illegal and could blow up the Earth.
                  - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                  Originally posted by Artema
                  I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                  • #10
                    Chaos47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6615

                    Originally posted by 2bits
                    I suspected as much! But I'm not one to argue as though educated on the subject if I'm not.
                    The guy claims to have a letter sent by the DOJ to inform of the law. If so, I wonder how old it is!
                    Well you wouldn't want him to do the work anyways since if he thinks its illegal then I'm sure he doesn't have much practice doing it.
                    Best just to move on.

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                    • #11
                      robcoe
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 8685

                      Originally posted by 2bits
                      Hey guys. I just got off the horn with Byrd's Gunsmithing in San Berdoo. I'm looking for someone to do a simple threading job. I just want a standard 1/2 x 28 thread on a .22 rifle muzzle but my regular guy is so busy it could be 2 weeks to get it done. Another local guy wants double the price since I made the mistake of letting on that I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the other smith.
                      Well then I called Byrd's only to have him tell me it's illegal to thread a semi auto of any size shape or caliber in Sunny Californy, be it rifle or pistol. Well I don't doubt his word but it comes as quite a surprise to hear, as I've seen multitudes of threaded semi autos and never heard of such a ruling before. I was wondering if anyone could co-sign that statement as it never hurts to have a second oppinion before accepting it as the gospel truth.
                      Since all my AR's have threaded barrels, and I bought them that way, I doubt it's a problem.
                      Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
                      No, I will not fix your computer.

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                      • #12
                        pigpen66m
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1032

                        Addax tactical told me the same thing. They wouldn't thread the barrel on my raw. Randall took care of it for me.

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                        • #13
                          2bits
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 34

                          Where is Randall hiding?

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                          • #14
                            CK_32
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14369

                            Originally posted by 2bits
                            Where is Randall hiding?
                            He's probably busy threading barrels lol
                            For Sale: AR500 Lvl III+ ASC Armor

                            What's Your Caliber??


                            My Youtube channel

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                            • #15
                              jaymz
                              CGSSA Associate
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 6298

                              Anyone that says it's not legal to thread a rifle barrel is wrong. I don't care if they have a letter from the President saying it's illegal. It isn't.
                              War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                              Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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