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  • EchoMD
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 45

    Theories on OLL being On-list lowers...

    Lets say Ca updates the assult weapons ban to include OLL. So would we (OLL owners) have a X amount of time to registar our OLL as an assult weapon and does that mean we would be able to take off the bullet button? Basically will there be two different distinctions of assult weapons: original pre ban and post ban OLL or would they all be considered assult weapons? Just trying to get an idea of the possible future...
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    5968
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3557

    I don't think that is going to happen.
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    • #3
      stillnotbob
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      • Feb 2008
      • 658

      I may be wrong, but didn't the DOJ give up it's right to add to the assault weapons list when it decided instead to define what an assault weapon was? Isn't this what created the whole OLL and "bullet button" builds we enjoy now?
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      • #4
        bobfried
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1448

        Originally posted by EchoMD
        Lets say Ca updates the assult weapons ban to include OLL. So would we (OLL owners) have a X amount of time to registar our OLL as an assult weapon and does that mean we would be able to take off the bullet button? Basically will there be two different distinctions of assult weapons: original pre ban and post ban OLL or would they all be considered assult weapons? Just trying to get an idea of the possible future...
        Two Weeks!

        If this was 2005, your a few years late to the "Will they be listed?" question. Not going to happen with the new laws in place.

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        • #5
          -hanko
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          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by EchoMD
          Lets say Ca updates the assult weapons ban to include OLL.
          Not a remotely realistic probability.

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          • #6
            domokun
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 3525

            I believe current case law dictates that they cannot list purely by series anymore and thus such amendments have to list every single banned brand/model combination out there that they know of as part of the updated ban. Once the ban is passed they'd have to keep updating it every year via legislation to keep the banned list current. This effort in itself is a significant effort to undertake to keep the list maintained since it'd require a new bill to be proposed, passed by both houses in the CA legislature and signed by the governor.

            The CA DOJ does not have the ability to add new makes/models to the banned list anymore so passing a new bill to maintain and upkeep the banned model list is the only way to do so at this point. If this does happen then it'll just result in a new round of OLLs with different markings and names on it to get around the ban. If a registration period were to open up for the newly affected, it'd result in more AWs being "created" or registered in CA which would defeat the whole purpose of having a ban -- to reduce the number of "assault weapons" within the state.

            As most have posted already...it's highly unlikely that it will happen.
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            • #7
              hoffmang
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2006
              • 18448

              AB-2728 removed the ability for the AG to add new makes and models to the prohibited list.

              More here: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in..._%28OLL/OLR%29

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              • #8
                thmpr
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3785

                I do not want an AW in my possession. All I need is firearm restrictions removed!!!
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                • #9
                  tenpercentfirearms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 13007

                  Originally posted by EchoMD
                  Lets say Ca updates the assult weapons ban to include OLL. So would we (OLL owners) have a X amount of time to registar our OLL as an assult weapon and does that mean we would be able to take off the bullet button? Basically will there be two different distinctions of assult weapons: original pre ban and post ban OLL or would they all be considered assult weapons? Just trying to get an idea of the possible future...
                  There would have to be new legislation in order to make OLLs assault weapons. They would have to do it by saying any semi-automatic rifle with either a fixed or detachable magazine and any one of the evil features.

                  If this were the case I would imagine that they would also put in the legislation that you could not create a catagory 3 assault weapon with this configuration. If that were the case, then your OLLs would still be limited.

                  The odds of any of that happening are slim to none. Look for the liberal gun grabbers to forget about this because it proves how incompetent they were when they wrote all of this up. A new federal ban taking into consideration the lessons learned here in California is more likely and even that is unlikely.
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                  • #10
                    aplinker
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 16762

                    Two AR/AK memo issue questions in one day...

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                    • #11
                      Hopi
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7700

                      Originally posted by uclaplinker
                      Two AR/AK memo issue questions in one day...
                      Yeah, i had to check my CPU clock....it does indeed read "2008".

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                      • #12
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        Originally posted by EchoMD
                        Lets say Ca updates the assult weapons ban to include OLL. So would we (OLL owners) have a X amount of time to registar our OLL as an assult weapon and does that mean we would be able to take off the bullet button? Basically will there be two different distinctions of assult weapons: original pre ban and post ban OLL or would they all be considered assult weapons? Just trying to get an idea of the possible future...
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                        • #13
                          trinydex
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4720

                          Originally posted by stillnotbob
                          I may be wrong, but didn't the DOJ give up it's right to add to the assault weapons list when it decided instead to define what an assault weapon was? Isn't this what created the whole OLL and "bullet button" builds we enjoy now?
                          enjoy?

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                          • #14
                            Guntech
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1722

                            They probably wont ban the OLL's but another "Clinton Ban" is more possible if a liberal President were elected, or Obama. Heller put up a bit of a barrier for us though, but they overturn and change things all the time. Not saying all Democrats are anti-gun, just haven't found a pro gun Dem yet Edwards would have been alright if he didn't try and get the liberals on his side by saying "you dont need an AK-47 to hunt"
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                            • #15
                              Gator Monroe
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 6422

                              don't ever underestamate the gun grabbin democrats greed !

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