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  • kbenson
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    • Oct 2012
    • 492

    Woman shot in arm by dropped gun

    Cheyenne police say a 22-year-old woman was accidentally shot at a Lowe's store when a handgun of another customer fell out of its holster.


    Did not see any details (gun type) but brings up a interesting point. Are guns on the Cali approved list, designed (not) to discharge when dropped?
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    CessnaDriver
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 10569

    I'm sure there are roster guns that if you do not use the decocker could go off.


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    • #3
      Roland Deschain
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      • Aug 2012
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      Originally posted by kbenson
      Are guns on the Cali approved list, designed (not) to discharge when dropped?
      None of the features required to get on a list would prevent this type of accidental discharge. The list is not about safety it's about control.
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      • #4
        kbenson
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 492

        Originally posted by Roland Deschain
        None of the features required to get on a list would prevent this type of accidental discharge. The list is not about safety it's about control.
        IC so in other words, the cali requirements are designed to make it more difficult for gun owner to discharge weapon when needed

        case in point "bullet button"

        This does make one think twice, the next time he/she holsters a handgun though...is it really secure?

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        • #5
          Intimid8tor
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          • Apr 2007
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          My guess is that the gun came out of the holster, and the owner tried to catch it and in the process of trying to catch it, caused it to discharge. And, why wasn't it secure in it's holster?
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          • #6
            bruss01
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            • Feb 2006
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            Originally posted by Intimid8tor
            My guess is that the gun came out of the holster, and the owner tried to catch it and in the process of trying to catch it, caused it to discharge. And, why wasn't it secure in it's holster?
            ^^ THIS ^^

            No gun of modern design and manufacture, in proper operating condition, will discharge when dropped from waist height.

            It slipped, someone grabbed, a trigger-pull by a wayward finger occurred... BLAMMO.
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            • #7
              klewan
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 3031

              Originally posted by Intimid8tor
              My guess is that the gun came out of the holster, and the owner tried to catch it and in the process of trying to catch it, caused it to discharge. And, why wasn't it secure in it's holster?
              Yep, that will do it. I'm pretty sure there is a 36" drop test to get on the Roster. Caralco is recalling all their guns because of them firing if dropped in the correct way.

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                HighLander51
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                • Feb 2010
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                The idiot who dropped the gun tried to catch it with their trigger finger and it went bang. No gun in good operating condition would go bang just falling to the floor. So the real question is what was the idiot doing with the gun that caused it to fall from a 'secure' holster?

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                • #9
                  CrippledPidgeon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1765

                  The only situation I can think of is that she had the gun in a crappy shoulder holster (like an Uncle Mike's nylon), and then bent over.

                  The only time I've ever gotten my gun to fall out of my IWB MTAC was when I did handstands with the gun in my holster (weighted to as if it were loaded via weights in the magazine), and I only did that to see what I needed to do to get it to fall out of the holster.

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                  • #10
                    ChrisC
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2469

                    Originally posted by HighLander51
                    The idiot who dropped the gun tried to catch it with their trigger finger and it went bang. No gun in good operating condition would go bang just falling to the floor. So the real question is what was the idiot doing with the gun that caused it to fall from a 'secure' holster?
                    Did you read how it happened somewhere or are you just making an assumption?

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                    • #11
                      BKinzey
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                      • May 2009
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                      My guess is since the story is very light on important info it all comes down to a guess as to what actually happened.

                      The CA test does include several drop tests to see if the gun fires. I don't know of any gun submitted for the test actually firing. Some have broken, but if they don't fire they pass the test.
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                      • #12
                        pumpkinshooter
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 168

                        Originally posted by HighLander51
                        The idiot who dropped the gun tried to catch it with their trigger finger and it went bang. No gun in good operating condition would go bang just falling to the floor. So the real question is what was the idiot doing with the gun that caused it to fall from a 'secure' holster?
                        There are plenty of guns in good operating condition that can fire if dropped.

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                        • #13
                          tonyxcom
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                          • Aug 2011
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                          Originally posted by pumpkinshooter
                          There are plenty of guns in good operating condition that can fire if dropped.
                          Then they shouldn't be your CCW.

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                          • #14
                            ChuckDizzle
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                            • Dec 2013
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                            Don't forget the pistol in question could have been modified in some way to make it unsafe for drops that normally wouldn't cause any problems.

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                              pumpkinshooter
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                              • Mar 2009
                              • 168

                              Originally posted by tonyxcom
                              Then they shouldn't be your CCW.
                              That is a separate discussion. If I had a ccw and only one pistol I think I would carry it whether it was "drop safe" by 2014 standards or not.

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