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  • JDPhx501
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 816

    Firing pin or Froglube problem?

    Twice in a row my Benelli M4 firing pin has failed to ignite the primer of the shell.

    When this happens I take out the firing pin and spring and wipe it down and after that it is good to go.

    I usually clean it with Froglube but after two times, I'm going to ban using FL on my Benelli.

    Anyone else have this problem or think I should switch the firing pin and spring? Note, it goes bang bang after I take apart the bcg and wipe it down, meaning I think the FL is gunking it up.
  • #2
    bigbearbear
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5378

    Are you caking the spring and the firing pin with the Froglube paste?

    I use Froglube on my Benelli SuperSport, including the firing pin and spring and never had the same problem. I don't use the paste though (except for 1st time treatment, after which all excess is wiped off), I just put some on a patch cloth and wipe down the pin and spring with it. It is enough to prevent carbon from sticking to the pin. I shoot around 200 to 250 shells a week with it.

    I just got a Benelli M2 out of jail today too, treated it with Froglube as well. I'll report back if I run into problems related to the firing pin after the shoot tomorrow.

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    • #3
      JDPhx501
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 816

      Froglube liquid on the firing pin and spring.

      Froglube paste on the surface of the bcg and receiver rails.

      This first happened about a month ago when I took it up north, I attributed the FL caking due to storage and cold weather, but last Friday's shoot was on a hot day and I had made sure not to be so liberal again with the FL so it was a surprise repeat...

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      • #4
        JDPhx501
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 816

        congrats on the M2, my friend just got one and uses Moly grease on the rails and Fireclean on the bcg and internals.

        I've still got half a tub of paste and liquid FL so not switching to Fireclean just yet..

        Originally posted by bigbearbear
        Are you caking the spring and the firing pin with the Froglube paste?

        I use Froglube on my Benelli SuperSport, including the firing pin and spring and never had the same problem. I don't use the paste though (except for 1st time treatment, after which all excess is wiped off), I just put some on a patch cloth and wipe down the pin and spring with it. It is enough to prevent carbon from sticking to the pin. I shoot around 200 to 250 shells a week with it.

        I just got a Benelli M2 out of jail today too, treated it with Froglube as well. I'll report back if I run into problems related to the firing pin after the shoot tomorrow.

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        • #5
          Teeko
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 2698

          Nothing's is wrong with FL, I use it on all my firearms and no problems what so ever.

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          • #6
            bigbearbear
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5378

            Originally posted by JDPhx501
            congrats on the M2, my friend just got one and uses Moly grease on the rails and Fireclean on the bcg and internals.

            I've still got half a tub of paste and liquid FL so not switching to Fireclean just yet..
            Thanks.

            You can also consider Ballistol if you feel uncomfortable with Froglube. I use it as a solvent on the barrel when I'm at the range, which has a nice cleaning station. It is cheaper than Froglube and safer than the brake cleaner provided by the range cleaning station. I spray down my bore with it, then put paper towels through (provided free!) the bore and choke to clean. When I get home the bore and choke gets more detailed cleaning and lubing with FrogLube.

            The main problem with Ballistol is the smell, it stinks, that's why I only use it at the range's cleaning station and not at home.

            But if for whatever reasons I can't use Froglube anymore, Ballistol would be my 2nd choice.

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            • #7
              toby
              Banned
              • Jan 2010
              • 10576

              43 years of shooting and I have never heard of these types of gumming up problems until FL came to town.

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              • #8
                USPSA GM
                Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 316

                Do not lube the firing pin or spring.

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                • #9
                  dyson
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 4342

                  If you are leaving any excess paste or liquid on your parts, and are not wiping it off, youre applying FL wrong. Wipe it all off.

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                  • #10
                    WyattandDoc
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 767

                    Originally posted by dyson
                    If you are leaving any excess paste or liquid on your parts, and are not wiping it off, youre applying FL wrong. Wipe it all off.
                    This....FL will NEVER gum up if you use it correctly.
                    Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                    • #11
                      hk200085
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 473

                      Exactly what the previous two posters said

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                      • #12
                        bigbearbear
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5378

                        BTW I tested the new out-the-box and lubed with Froglube, Benelli M2 today, no problems with it. It was only a function/safety check for this gun as my wife is the intended shooter for this gun, so I only shot 2 boxes but everything checked out ok.

                        It was morning, around 44 degrees on the trap field when I shot. Not very cold, but chilly enough.

                        These are fairly light target loads as I was testing it on the clay shooting range (Coyote Valley). The 2 loads I used are:
                        1. Winchester Super Target. #7.5, 1200fps, 1 1/8oz. This was the first box I tried. These are some of the worst and dirtiest shotshells you can feed your shotgun. The only other shotshell that I know of that is just as dirty, is the Winchester Universal.

                        2. Estate Target Load. #7.5, 1180fps, 1oz. This is a very light load and was the 2nd box I fired. These are very low recoil loads, typically used by pumps and break action 12g shotguns, but Benelli shotguns seems to cycle them ok. I also shoot this load on my Benelli SuperSport.

                        Everything fired and ejected just fine with the shotgun being lubbed with Froglube.

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                        • #13
                          JoshuaS
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1617

                          I think its ability to cake up is the major draw back to FL.

                          I have found it does wonders preventing rust on my reloading press, knives, etc. But yeah, usually two days after cleaning a gun, I take it apart again and find little places where some green FL has congealed in. I have never had a problem...but then I have been very anal in applying it and then checking it again a couple of days later.

                          I think for easier cleaning, ballistol or (if you want better protection) M-Pro is better. Even though I still think FL rocks for rust prevention over them.

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                          • #14
                            Braddah Jay
                            Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 395

                            The paste works great once the metal surface that it was applied to is warmed up. Wouldn't suggest using it on parts like the firing pin since that part rarely gets hot.

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                            • #15
                              ArmyMedicMoose
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1297

                              I find froglube very dangerous!
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