David Olofson Case

[dadoody]

It's been a while since I read about David Olofson. I heard he just entered prison a few weeks back.

Is there still any appeals going on? How can they do this to someone?

He has a clean record and is and honest citizen who's AR-15 malfunctioned after thousands of rounds passed through it. There's so many messed up things here:

1.) The idiots on the range who reported the malfunction as a machine gun
2.) the ATF scumbags
3.) The judge
4.) The jury


Do we have "gun rights"? or is it actually gun privileges?

We can't just let this go...

[Army]

I think you need to read a little more about Mr. Olofson. He's not exactly "clean", nor was he unaware that the alterations he did to his rifle would result in a slam fire.

Despite the GOA rhetoric to the contrary, Olofson broke the law.

[ImOverHere]

FWIW:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69668

[dadoody]

I think you need to read a little more about Mr. Olofson. He's not exactly "clean", nor was he unaware that the alterations he did to his rifle would result in a slam fire.

Despite the GOA rhetoric to the contrary, Olofson broke the law.

Can you elaborate?

[NeoWeird]

My understanding was that he was hit with transferring of a MG not manufacturing because the law requires intent. He did not have the intent to manufacture an MG so he couldn't be charged when his gun in fact fired more than one shot per trigger pull. However, he had full intention of loaning a rifle to someone, which just so happened to be a MG, and so he was hit with transferring. I've heard someone say had it been him at the range he wouldn't have been hit with anything short of a 'get it fixed by a gunsmith ASAP'.

Stupid, but that's how the law works.

As for the topic, last I heard it was the same as every other trial whether the person is innocent or not. They are in the house starting their time, people on the outside working to get an appeal, etc etc etc. I'm not following it very carefully but I haven't heard anything new since then.

[dadoody]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I been hearing/reading.

And who's that Army guy up there? Did he find more case facts? Or is he an ATF guy?

[Xerxes]

I think you need to read a little more about Mr. Olofson. He's not exactly "clean", nor was he unaware that the alterations he did to his rifle would result in a slam fire.

Despite the GOA rhetoric to the contrary, Olofson broke the law.

Please elaborate and post link to you need to read a little more.

On the face of it making the purchaser responsible for a defective manufactured product seems ludicrous. It is contrary to all the leftist liberal legistlation passed over the last 100 years that holds the manufacture responsible. Where are the leftis liberal monkeys on this one.


EDIT:

Did some googling. Seems that this is an Oly gun. Does anyone know about the defect? I ask because I have a pre-1994 model that I bought during one of the gun ban frenzies that pops up from time to time and will pop up again after (not Bark Bark like the dog) Barak (not Sadam) Hussien (not Osama) Obama is elected president.

So my concern is that I have one of these defective Oly AR15's. I will contact the manufacture but if anyone has further info that would be appreciated.

[robitrocks]

Please elaborate and post link to you need to read a little more.

On the face of it making the purchaser responsible for a defective manufactured product seems ludicrous. It is contrary to all the leftist liberal legistlation passed over the last 100 years that holds the manufacture responsible. Where are the leftis liberal monkeys on this one.


EDIT:

Did some googling. Seems that this is an Oly gun. Does anyone know about the defect? I ask because I have a pre-1994 model that I bought during one of the gun ban frenzies that pops up from time to time and will pop up again after (not Bark Bark like the dog) Barak (not Sadam) Hussien (not Osama) Obama is elected president.

So my concern is that I have one of these defective Oly AR15's. I will contact the manufacture but if anyone has further info that would be appreciated.

I wanna say that the 80's Oly's had a M16 hammers or M16 bolt carrier groups or something to that effect. There was a thread on arfcom.

[Army]

Olofson had full auto sears at his house, discovered by his own father, who disposed of them through a "3rd party".


"..somebody must have broken in and dropped them..." despite a "state of the art" security system. ATF ain't all that, and Olofson isn't all that big a catch. The father implicates himself with this letter, by not reporting or turning over EVIDENCE to the authorities.

Two auto sears, knowledge of what they are, statements that admit he knew the weapon would malfunction, knowledge that the M16 parts already in the weapon were illegal (he took and Armorers course, I guaranteeeeee the instructor informed the class to not be caught with full auto/M16 parts...the evil 15 we call them). Such a high speed Soldier would not be involved like this.

This case is legitimate, considering all the circumstances. David may well be a great guy....but he screwed up bad.

Much more like this with minimum looking. I got this little bit off a SUPPORT page.



***edit*** Me ATF? Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

[Grimjack]

What's your point? There is nothing in the affidavit you posted that supports the contention that Olofson knowingly maufactured or transferred a machine gun. The ATF could not even reliably replicate auto-fire.

If the ATF had caught Olofson in posession of an auto-sear they would have had a slam-dunk case and charged him with it. They didn't.

I find it more likely that the ATF, in an attempt to bolster a weak case, planted auto-sears in the residences. Than that Olofson and his Father would be in posession of auto-sears, dispose of them through a third party, and then admit it in court documents.

[eaglemike]

Is anyone here familiar with the "******* vs Brand" case? It was cited on a link somewhere on the atfabuse.com site. IIRC it held that evidence showing innocence must also be presented by the prosecution. When this subject came up before, I couldn't remember any part of the case name. So - all the legal experts out there, can you help. IIRC it was a SCOTUS from about 1976??? Maybe??? I could be very wrong on the dates. It would seem this precedent might have been of assistance to Olafson.

all the best,

Mike

[Xerxes]

I agree, sounds like a plant.

BATFExyzABC alphabet police go looking for weapons violation, in particular full auto stuff. They tear apart the place looking for exactly this type of thing. Then some how they end up dropping it on the floor not knowing what it is even though they are looking for such. How stupid can that be?

I think they dropped it so the suspect would pick it up later and put finger prints on it and make him do "da .... da.......da...." when questioned about it later when they searched again and found it with his fingerprints on it. He could then sound like an idiot saying that the ATF planted it on him.

This does explain a lot why he was convicted. Sounds like a contrived case where he was set up.

Also from what I read he was on LE whenever they broke the law and on many occasions made it so they were held accountable

This sounds more and more like a set up where LE did payback for forcing LE to follow the law and not be above it.

What's your point? There is nothing in the affidavit you posted that supports the contention that Olofson knowingly maufactured or transferred a machine gun. The ATF could not even reliably replicate auto-fire.

If the ATF had caught Olofson in posession of an auto-sear they would have had a slam-dunk case and charged him with it. They didn't.

I find it more likely that the ATF, in an attempt to bolster a weak case, planted auto-sears in the residences. Than that Olofson and his Father would be in posession of auto-sears, dispose of them through a third party, and then admit it in court documents.

[Guntech]

Please elaborate and post link to you need to read a little more.

On the face of it making the purchaser responsible for a defective manufactured product seems ludicrous. It is contrary to all the leftist liberal legistlation passed over the last 100 years that holds the manufacture responsible. Where are the leftis liberal monkeys on this one.


EDIT:

Did some googling. Seems that this is an Oly gun. Does anyone know about the defect? I ask because I have a pre-1994 model that I bought during one of the gun ban frenzies that pops up from time to time and will pop up again after (not Bark Bark like the dog) Barak (not Sadam) Hussien (not Osama) Obama is elected president.

So my concern is that I have one of these defective Oly AR15's. I will contact the manufacture but if anyone has further info that would be appreciated.

You mean BARAK OSAMA BIN LADEN SADDAM HUSSEIN OBAMA??

[bonusweb]

Despite the GOA rhetoric to the contrary

At seems there is always an Apologist for this administration's gun grabbing and the NRAs complicity in passing gun control and ignoring cases like this.

This sounds like the same people that said Ramos and Compean deserved what they got. Rather than acknowledge the truth about thier beloved phony leaders, they say of the inocent ;" they had it coming, let them rot in jail"

BORDER PATROL AGENTS IN JAIL, DRUG SMUGGLER FREE

http://www.newswithviews.com/Corsi/jerome1.htm

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He's not exactly "clean", nor was he unaware that the alterations he did to his rifle would result in a slam fire.

Despite the GOA rhetoric to the contrary, Olofson broke the law