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  • chinookdriver
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 6

    Help needed

    Guys,
    I have been watching the forums for a while now just never really participated before, but now I am at a loss. Here is the story.

    While I was deployed, one of our guys set up a commemorative group buy with a well know manufacturer (Im not sure if I should post the name so I will leave it out for now). I took part in it and bought a rifle (gas operated centerfire). 6 months later I got home and went to the local CA FFL where the guns were sent. i completed the DROS paperwork, the waiting period and then picked up the rifle.

    Once more poeple started picking up their rifles it became apparant that one of the models was NOT CA compliant. I called the FFL to ask about getting the rifle fixed or returned and they told me to conatct the manufacturer directly to set up a direct ship beck to the manufacturer.

    I called the manufacturer and navigated my way through the automated system and finally got a customer service rep. I explained the situation and they sent me off to their commemorative firearms sales guy. I sent emails, made phone calls and he never returned my calls or emails. I called back and spoke with another rep and he told me to go back to the FFL to get the rifle shipped back.

    I feel like im being sent on a wild goose chase all the while I have a major issue sitting in my closet. I dont want the rifle in this condition and never intended to have a non-compliant rifle.

    Please help...what do i do now?! Call DOJ, BOF? get a lawyer? im at a loss and want this resolved before I get in trouble for something that should have never happened.
  • #2
    BrassCase
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2011
    • 3192

    I think you should name the manufacturer as someone might have some insight on that particular builder and give you some help. Also, what wasn't compliant about it?
    I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
    NRA Certified:

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    Instructor: Basic Pistol Shooting
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    • #3
      chinookdriver
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 6



      No bullet button, cant put a bullet button on.

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      • #4
        tonyxcom
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2011
        • 6397

        Riflegear has had bullet buttons for that model. Not in stock now though. Is the stock on yours still folding? Wait don't answer that in public because that is a problem for you too if it is.

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        • #5
          chinookdriver
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 6

          The folding stock comliancy will not be an issue if I can get a solution for the mag release.

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          • #6
            My Dixie Wrecked
            Banned
            • Dec 2013
            • 16

            don't answer or respond, but the stock can only fold if the overall length of the rifle is 30" when it's folded, if that's not the case, then you need to lock it open or get an extended muzzle device to meet OAL. you can install the BB or take it to your FFL so they can do it

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            • #7
              chinookdriver
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 6

              Stock is not an issue
              Mag release is.

              How do I either:
              get the mag release compliant
              or
              Get the compnay to take it back (FFL/Manufacturer for either a fix or a refund)

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              • #8
                tonyxcom
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2011
                • 6397

                The manufacturer has no reason to take it back. I would pressure the FFL to take it back because they sold you (and possibly many others) an "assault weapon" per CA law. Remind them of this fact as it was their responsibility to make sure they were CA compliant when sold - either by making them compliant or making sure they were received compliant. Sounds like they did neither and at least you are in possession of an AW.

                I wonder if simply removing the pistol grip and flash hider are enough to at least make your current possession of this rifle legal.

                Edit: or removing the entire mag catch assembly so that it won't retain a magazine.

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                • #9
                  BONECUTTER
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 2263

                  Seperate the upper from the lower for quick compliance as long as this is not banned by name. You can always go featureless until you find a suitable mag lock.

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                  • #10
                    09rubicon
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2133

                    Originally posted by BONECUTTER
                    Seperate the upper from the lower for quick compliance as long as this is not banned by name. You can always go featureless until you find a suitable mag lock.
                    Not that you want to modify such a nice rifle. Add a monster man grip, remove the flash hider and pin the stock and you end up featureless (no BB required).

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                    • #11
                      chinookdriver
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 6

                      Thank you for the help.

                      I cant get the manufacturer to refund the cost of the rifle since it is not what I had ordered on the online form? I bought directly from Sig, not a dealer.

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                      • #12
                        tonyxcom
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 6397

                        Originally posted by chinookdriver
                        Thank you for the help.

                        I cant get the manufacturer to refund the cost of the rifle since it is not what I had ordered on the online form? I bought directly from Sig, not a dealer.
                        Well, based off what you said in your OP it didn't sound like you had much luck taking that route.

                        In either case, the FFL is on the hook for compliance.

                        Screw it, call the DOJ. Something is bound to give that way.

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                        • #13
                          jaymz
                          CGSSA Associate
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6298

                          Don't call the DOJ!
                          War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                          Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                          • #14
                            drifts1
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1443

                            Burry it in the backyard, then dig it up when the shtf or the zombie apocalypse. Haha. Just look for a maglock and 10rd mags, then youll be fine.

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                            • #15
                              stix213
                              AKA: Joe Censored
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 19002

                              You could try contacting the manufacturer that makes the Sig 556 bullet button and see if they know what vendors may have them?

                              Its probably one of these two that you need:



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