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  • adamjay
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1400

    Flying with firearm, first experience. Beware! FYI

    Well, team, I took the family to Colorado over Thanksgiving and decided to bring my pistol with me for the first time. I was reluctant to bring it on the plane, but after this thread discussion, i went for it.


    It went pretty smoothly, only took an extra 5 minutes at each check in. At checking the bags at the counter, I calmly stated, "I need to declare an unloaded firearm, locked in a hard sided case in one of my bags."

    The ladies didnt flinch, had me fill out the declaration card, taped it to the outside of the hard sided case, and calmly directed me on how to proceed. After they took my other bags, a TSA rep led me to a side room, where he gloved up, opened my bag, looked around a little bit, swabbed the outside of the hard sided case, closed up, and politely dismissed me. At neither location did they ask to open the hard sided case to confirm unloaded. No big deal.

    I had the pistol in my quick access bedside vault. A installed a bolt eye on the bottom and used that to padlock to the inside frame of my suitcase with a thick, flexible bike lock cable. I figured better safe than sorry.

    However, when we got home to unpack, we found TSA inspection declaration tags in ALL of our other luggage and my 2 holsters, which were in a different suitcase than the pistol were GONE! A Wilson Combat featherweight IWB and my beloved Alessi shoulder rig, totaling close to $300- Gone!

    I called the airport, the airline and the Denver airport TSA and got nowhere. Now, I have to fill out a claim with the TSA, dig through the trash to recover boarding passes, baggage tags, etc. and hope for the best. Apparently it will take several months to get a decision from the TSA as to whether they will cover it. It took 6 months to get that Alessi, probably gonna order a new one right away.

    So my lessons... Glad I locked in my pistol! A declared firearm may be a red flag
    to thieves. NEVER put anything in a checked bag you are not willing to lose(should've known this already).

    Thought I would vent my woes, and give a heads up to the community.

    By the way, glad I had old slabsides at the bedside in the vacation house and it was very satisfying visiting a state that allows any citizen to drive with a loaded pistol in the car. Felt like real America!
    'The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.'

    -Abraham Lincoln
  • #2
    junior40er
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 3315

    TSA....where any criminal can have a job.
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    • #3
      The Gleam
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 12897

      I've flown 13 times in the past 20 years with firearms. Never a problem. As for anything valuable, why would you NOT have put it in with your firearms, if you're going to (and required to) lock the case anyway, and it remains locked for the duration of the trip?

      I PREFER to fly with firearms because:

      1) I breeze through the lines, because I get extracted out of the sheep-line and taken to the TSA line at most airports where it is separate; and I often get a personal escort with a TSA agent who helps carry my gun-bag/case through the airport.

      2) Lockable case, that I can put other things in it: ammo, knives, tools, cameras, any valuables and personal crap that would be an issue as carry-on, etc.

      Flying with firearms is an advantage, not a disadvantage - for those two reasons alone.
      Last edited by The Gleam; 12-15-2013, 11:36 AM.
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      Originally posted by Librarian
      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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      • #4
        Ziggy91
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1008

        I've lost all respect for anyone who handles bags or packages this season...

        I ordered a serpa holster, a Matech BUIS, and a t-shirt off of eBay last month. EVERY package was freakin ripped open a bit to see what's inside, aside from the serpa package which was completely open, as if they took it out, realised it's nothing good, then tossed it back in. I'm still furious... how could USPS, Fedex, and UPS hire such useless workers who spend their time picking through my packages? I'm amazed that my AR parts kit arrived in one piece, completely wrapped up.
        Originally Posted by paul0660:
        You are going to sell it to the gun store?
        Come ON. They will charge you for the KY jelly btw.
        Originally posted by Munny$hot
        I love French rifles most "Brand new only dropped once"

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        • #5
          adamjay
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 1400

          Originally posted by The Gleam
          As for anything valuable, why would you NOT have put it in with your firearms
          Wasn't enough room in case for the holsters, guess I need a bigger locked case. Maybe I should put my valuable clothes and shoes in there, too, huh?

          But yeah, should've known.
          'The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.'

          -Abraham Lincoln

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          • #6
            boogak
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2006
            • 1686

            Wow

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            • #7
              The Gleam
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 12897

              Originally posted by adamjay
              Wasn't enough room in case for the holsters, guess I need a bigger locked case. Maybe I should put my valuable clothes and shoes in there, too, huh?

              But yeah, should've known.
              HA!! You jest, but yes; there was a time I put a pair of rare dual-leather, handmade shark-skin and black patent-Leather Tony Lamas from the 1950's locked in with my guns, as I was flying to go to a special-event back East and didn't want to wear them on the plane.
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              Originally posted by Librarian
              What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

              If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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              • #8
                negolien
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 4829

                And the purpose of taking you firearm to another state without actually needing it and without a CCW for that state?
                "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                George Orwell

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                • #9
                  poriggity
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 891

                  the TSA, at least around here is made up of career criminals and high school dropouts. sucks your stuff got stolen
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                  • #10
                    SanPedroShooter
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 9732

                    The tags never go on the outside of the case. I think its the law.

                    They go inside. Almost positive.

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                    • #11
                      DFence
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1368

                      Originally posted by negolien
                      And the purpose of taking you firearm to another state without actually needing it and without a CCW for that state?

                      Why do you assume he did not need it and/or have a CCW for that state?

                      Just because you don't, doesn't mean he doesn't.


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                      • #12
                        DFence
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1368

                        Originally posted by SanPedroShooter
                        The tags never go on the outside of the case. I think its the law.



                        They go inside. Almost positive.

                        I've had it done both ways. Not sure if one way is illegal or not. But regardless, my locked case is inside of a piece of normal luggage to not draw attention.


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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Some good info on this site... Packing & the Friendly Skies
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                          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30242

                            Originally posted by negolien
                            And the purpose of taking you firearm to another state without actually needing it and without a CCW for that state?
                            So, that you can legally lock your luggage with non-TSA locks and have all your belongs secure during transport.
                            Also does not have to be a real firearm; you can use a flare gun or airsoft and still be able to lock your luggage.
                            Last edited by Quiet; 12-15-2013, 3:07 PM.
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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #15
                              SOAR79
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2943

                              damn that sucks!

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