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  • zman
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 3639

    Storing Ammo "Separately"

    So what does the PRK law say on storing your ammo separately?

    1. If you have a huge safe with guns in it, can you store the ammo in there if the ammo was in another lock box?

    2. If you have two containers - a separate lock box for ammo and a separate safe for gunsr, can these two be side-by-side in a walk-in closet? Or do they have to be in a different room altogether separately?

    3. What are the legal "containers" for storing ammo?

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    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8612

    Originally posted by zman
    So what does the PRK law say on storing your ammo separately?

    1. If you have a huge safe with guns in it, can you store the ammo in there if the ammo was in another lock box?

    you can store them in the guns if you want

    2. If you have two containers - a separate lock box for ammo and a separate safe for gunsr, can these two be side-by-side in a walk-in closet? Or do they have to be in a different room altogether separately?

    they dont have to be separate

    3. What are the legal "containers" for storing ammo?

    cardboard boxes? old tshirt?
    whatever you want to use



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    • #3
      5150Marcelo
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      • Mar 2008
      • 7681

      I think the storing ammo seperately law is refering to transportating in a vehicle. I dont know of such a law that you HAVE to store ammo and guns seperate in your house.
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      • #4
        sorensen440
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2007
        • 8612

        Originally posted by 5150Marcelo
        I think the storing ammo seperately law is refering to transportating in a vehicle. I dont know of such a law that you HAVE to store ammo and guns seperate in your house.
        you dont have to store them separatly in a vehicle just unloaded
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        • #5
          Ironchef
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 2313

          What he said (sorensen440).

          I don't believe there's ANY rules on ammo storage. I would boldly guess that you could have .223 cartridges littered all over your living room floor if you wanted, in your bathroom sink, in the fridge, taped to the walls, hanging from the ceiling. Would be a beautiful sight..and it would mean you're single too! lol

          Yep, in a car being transported, they just can't be in a position to fire (magwell, cylinder, chamber, etc).
          Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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          • #6
            zman
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 3639

            Children may visit my house and I read this:

            From http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php

            As a responsible handgun owner, you must recognize the need and be aware of the methods of childproofing your handgun, whether or not you have children.
            Whenever children could be around, whether your own, or a friend's, relative's or neighbor's, additional safety steps should be taken when storing firearms and ammunition in your home.
            • Always store your firearm unloaded.
            • Use a firearms safety device AND store the firearm in a locked container.
            • Store the ammunition separately in a locked container.

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            • #7
              sorensen440
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2007
              • 8612

              Originally posted by zman
              Children may visit my house and I read this:

              From http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php

              As a responsible handgun owner, you must recognize the need and be aware of the methods of childproofing your handgun, whether or not you have children.
              Whenever children could be around, whether your own, or a friend's, relative's or neighbor's, additional safety steps should be taken when storing firearms and ammunition in your home.
              • Always store your firearm unloaded.
              • Use a firearms safety device AND store the firearm in a locked container.
              • Store the ammunition separately in a locked container.
              Those are recommendations not laws
              "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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              • #8
                Rob454
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Feb 2006
                • 11254

                Im pretty sure that that applies only when you transport guns and ammo. I have a loaded gun in my house but thats IN my house

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                • #9
                  Ironchef
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2313

                  Originally posted by zman
                  Children may visit my house and I read this:

                  From http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php

                  As a responsible handgun owner, you must recognize the need and be aware of the methods of childproofing your handgun, whether or not you have children.
                  Whenever children could be around, whether your own, or a friend's, relative's or neighbor's, additional safety steps should be taken when storing firearms and ammunition in your home.
                  • Always store your firearm unloaded.
                  • Use a firearms safety device AND store the firearm in a locked container.
                  • Store the ammunition separately in a locked container.

                  Good thing we're not obliged to take the DOJ's suggestions as law, as much as they probably think everything they say is law. They are not legislators, thankfully.

                  BUt yes, those are good ideas if you want to have firearms and not teach your children how to react or behave with firearms, if you don't intend to defend yourself or your family if there's a bad guy in your home, and if you like having locked boxes in your closet.

                  I am one of those who brazenly maintains a loaded handgun in my home..of course it's legally stowed for safe and fast retrieval if needed..and my boxes of ammo are in a safe and with the gun.
                  Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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                  • #10
                    sorensen440
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 8612

                    Originally posted by Rob454
                    Im pretty sure that that applies only when you transport guns and ammo. I have a loaded gun in my house but thats IN my house
                    Guns in cars must be unloaded
                    not stored separatly
                    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #11
                      sorensen440
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 8612

                      also if you have a safe that the kids cant get into I do not feel its irresponsible to store it loaded
                      I own guns to protect my family including those in my family that are children
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                      • #12
                        M. Sage
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 19759

                        Originally posted by zman
                        So what does the PRK law say on storing your ammo separately?

                        1. If you have a huge safe with guns in it, can you store the ammo in there if the ammo was in another lock box?

                        2. If you have two containers - a separate lock box for ammo and a separate safe for gunsr, can these two be side-by-side in a walk-in closet? Or do they have to be in a different room altogether separately?

                        3. What are the legal "containers" for storing ammo?
                        The law says nothing on storing ammo seperately from guns.

                        1: You can store your guns loaded if you like.

                        2: Irrelevant. You can store your guns loaded and unlocked in your closet (as long as no children will get hold of them).

                        3: Anything you want. Or leave it laying loose if you like. I prefer the boxes the ammo comes in or magazines.

                        You have to transport guns unloaded, but even then the ammo doesn't have to be separate from guns.

                        Originally posted by 5150Marcelo
                        I think the storing ammo seperately law is refering to transportating in a vehicle. I dont know of such a law that you HAVE to store ammo and guns seperate in your house.
                        Nope. You can transport a gun in the same container as loaded magazines (might be different for AWs, I don't know) and/or ammo. Nothing in the law restricting that.

                        As for the "childproofing" thing from DOJ... my house is childproof, but not the way they mean it. Kids are extremely rare at our place. Pretty much a "never" situation.
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                        • #13
                          Citadelgrad87
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16956

                          Originally posted by zman
                          Children may visit my house and I read this:

                          From http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php

                          As a responsible handgun owner, you must recognize the need and be aware of the methods of childproofing your handgun, whether or not you have children.
                          Whenever children could be around, whether your own, or a friend's, relative's or neighbor's, additional safety steps should be taken when storing firearms and ammunition in your home.
                          • Always store your firearm unloaded.
                          • Use a firearms safety device AND store the firearm in a locked container.
                          • Store the ammunition separately in a locked container.
                          I agree with the safety first principal, but practically speaking, if a firearm is locked inside a safe, it is irrelevant whether it is loaded or not, as it is impossible for kids to get a hold of the firearm.

                          Of course, "what if I forget to lock the safe," etc, you can back it up a step and say they need to be unloaded.

                          My response is why not take the ultimate step and dewat or simply get rid of your firearms.

                          That is unacceptable to me. MAny of my firearms are primary home defense weapons, and are loaded in safes at all times.

                          I just need to be diligent, as always, with firearms.
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                          • #14
                            mymonkeyman
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1049

                            Originally posted by sorensen440
                            Those are recommendations not laws
                            There is a law though that if a kid, even a trespasser, gets a hold of your gun and fires it or takes it into a public place, you are essentially deeply screwed. The only exceptions if it was in a CA DOJ safe OR had a CA DOJ handgun safety device on it. The "AND," the unloaded, and the separate container statements are complete BS though.
                            The above does not constitute legal advice. I am not your lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              sorensen440
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 8612

                              Originally posted by mymonkeyman
                              There is a law though that if a kid, even a trespasser, gets a hold of your gun and fires it or takes it into a public place, you are essentially deeply screwed. The only exceptions if it was in a CA DOJ safe OR had a CA DOJ handgun safety device on it. The "AND," the unloaded, and the separate container statements are complete BS though.
                              Thats correct if they get access to your gun your liable
                              but if you keep it in a safe they wont gain access
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