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  • shortround13
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 253

    NFA questions

  • #2
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    trust ownership of CA-prohibited items does not let you possess them in CA. ATF allows people that move to NFA-prohibited states to store them in a secure manner out-of-state. Bank deposit boxes are often used for small items. storing a gunsafe at a relative's house in which only you have access to is also an option. you could contact ATF for the exact requirements and what notification is required. For instance, if you moved from CO, you may want to store the items in Reno, so you'd notify ATF that they'd be permanently stored there.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      Intimid8tor
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2007
      • 6607

      Congrats on moving. Questions on moving back have been answered before me. I don't know if they are right or wrong or close or far, as I am never going back to CA.

      As to the trust, I wouldn't necessarily say they are the best way. They have their advantages, including no CLEO signoff (for now), eform capability and the ability to add or delete trustees. They also provide a legal means for succession for the items as trustees pass on. I have heard a concern voiced on occasion that if the ATF were to disallow trust ownership it could create a S%$tstorm of people having to resubmit paperwork to put them in their individual names.

      I chose to do mine as a person for a couple of reasons. First, there is no question about who owns them. That is both good and bad, depending on your stance. Yes, my next of kin would have to transfer anything I own or dispose of it at my passing. I'll be honest and say I am not looking at there being a viable ATF in 40 years. Many people do a trust because they cannot get CLEO sign off. I can so that was a non issue.

      One area where trusts are excelling at right now is time frame to complete the process. Trusts can use the eform for the transfer and those are running 3-4 months for completion compared to 10-12+ months for individual ownership.

      I can't tell you which way to go. I can only tell you to start saving your money because if you thought normal firearms were expensive, you're about to enter a whole new realm.
      Starve the beast, move to a free state.

      Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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      • #4
        Nicoman
        Guardian of masculinity
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jul 2010
        • 1320

        I choose to create a trust when I bought my AOW in CA, I didn't want to deal with getting CLEO sign off. Now that I'm in Idaho it allows me to use the ATE eform which as Intimid8tor said has been running faster (hopefully it keeps up), but the down side to the eform system is if you make a mistake on your eform the system does not allow for corrections to be made like you can with a paper form, I know this because I screwed up on my form 1 and was told I had to request a refund and start over.
        Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
        I like FDE because when I pose for pictures with my FDE guns it makes me look more like an operator.
        Originally posted by Nutnfancy
        "Preserve your gat"

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        • #5
          shortround13
          Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 253

          thanks ya'll….
          definitely looking forward to expanding my collection!

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