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  • xounlistedxox
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2597

    LEGR Application Process My Experience Recovered Revolver Update 12-30

    Back in 2007 my home was burglarized. Many firearms were stolen including 2 AR's, 2 SKS, Mini 14, Savage 10/22, Glock 19, Beretta 950, Walther P22, Winchester 1300, Taurus 85 .38 etc.

    At the time I had a large firearms safe on layaway, so all long guns were kept in a wooden gun cabinet. All of my handguns were kept in a sentry safe that was bolted to my floor in my closet. I also had a sentry fireproof filing cabinet safe.

    They were able to rip the safe off the floor, take it off sight, then smash it to get the goodies out of it. The filing cabinet safe had all of my firearms paperwork in it. Since all of my firearms paperwork was in the safe, I didn't have any of the serial #'s for my firearms. The Community Service Officer who arrived on scene was able to pull up all handgun information, but no long gun information. This was the first time I heard of long guns not being registered.

    I was renting the home & the home owner supposedly added me to his home owners insurance policy, but it turns out that was not the case. Insurance denied my claim. The home owner was going through some serious medical problems at the time that scrambled his brain pretty bad(aneurysm), so couldn't offer any help. After coming out of his coma he was living with family and being taken care of by them. He has since passed away.

    A couple days ago I received a letter from Sacramento PD Evidence & Property Division. They have firearm(s) ready for me to pick up! I couldn't sleep I was so excited.

    It turns out my Taurus Model 85 .38 special revolver was recovered back in 2008 & is no longer needed for evidence, so now I can pick it up.

    The major hurdle here is that The Department of Justice(DOJ) has to process a Law Enforcement Gun Release Application, & they are claiming 4-12 weeks to process the application! That just sounds absurd to me. Background checks come back in less than an hour in most cases. I had a livescan done to get my CCW and even it was back in less than an hour.

    4-12 weeks to do a background check seems like DOJ is performing some sort of scam. Even their web sight states 30 days or less processing time.

    I was born and raised in Sacramento which is where I still reside. I have never been arrested and have no criminal record. Currently licensed CCW permit holder.

    I have already filled out & mailed the LEGR(11-25-13), sent a copy of the original police report, and a check for $20 just in case. I made copies of everything I sent, & sent via USPS Certified Mail, so that I have confirmation of receipt. They're supposed to receive it today(11-27-13). For some reason it took the USPS several days to ship this letter across town. It was finally delivered 12-2-13.

    Update 12-12-13:

    I called DOJ BOF just to see how things are progressing. They said they received my application on Dec 2nd, but have not entered it in for processing yet & that they have no idea how long it will take to get entered, or how long it will take once entered.

    I sure am glad my hard earned tax dollars afford me such delightful service & efficiency when I need something from my govt. This whole process is ridiculous.

    Update 12-24-13

    Called DOJ BOF to check on the status again. The guy on the phone was much more helpful than the lady I talked to last time. He said there's only two people that input the applications & legr's come in by the hundreds. He said from what he knows they're back logged about 2 months, so I'm probably looking at mid February. Definitely not the news I wanted to hear, but at least a lot more straight forward than my last conversation.

    Update 12-28-13

    I received my approval letter from DOJ BOF in the mail yesterday 12-27. I'm happy of course. Just find it odd that when inquiring about it no one had any of the correct info to update me at DOJ.

    Update 12-30-13

    I went to Sac PD Property today & picked up my revolver. It took about 15 minutes from when I arrived to receive my revolver back. It was really dirty and smelled like a homeless person. It's also missing a few parts, so at this time it's a fancy paper weight. It's missing the yoke screw assembly, & the cylinder stop plunger assembly. I ordered the parts from Taurus already. $15 total & 7-10 day wait for shipping.

    How I received it.


    Cleaning it up


    Back together, looks like it's been beat up a bit. Definitely not the condition it was in when it was stolen, but once I get the parts it's missing it will be functional 100%. Doesn't look like it was shot much, but likely carried often.
    Last edited by xounlistedxox; 12-31-2013, 8:55 AM. Reason: Updating info.
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  • #2
    Untamed1972
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2009
    • 17579

    Registration is not necessary for the return of stolen items.

    That's why many things have serial numbers on them. If you keep a record or serial numbers if something is stolen the serial number can be provided for the police report. Then if the item is recovered they can look up the serial number of items that have been reported stolen and find the owner that way.

    They need not have record of EVERY gun to be able to return them.....they only need to have serial numbers from those reported stolen.
    "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

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    • #3
      xounlistedxox
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2597

      Originally posted by Untamed1972
      Registration is not necessary for the return of stolen items.

      That's why many things have serial numbers on them. If you keep a record or serial numbers if something is stolen the serial number can be provided for the police report. Then if the item is recovered they can look up the serial number of items that have been reported stolen and find the owner that way.

      They need not have record of EVERY gun to be able to return them.....they only need to have serial numbers from those reported stolen.
      In my case all of my serial numbers were stolen along with the firearms. Without the registration of the handguns I wouldn't have been able to report any of them stolen. I kept all receipts for all arms in a filing cabinet safe separate from all the firearms, but that was stolen as well.
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      • #4
        Steve_In_29
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 5682

        Registration is not required to report weapons as stolen nor to get them back if recovered. A list of make/model/ser# would suffice. One of the bragging pictures people love would be icing on the cake.

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        • #5
          majtom94
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 1120

          Saramento must be pretty good at this, recovering guns. I got the same info and LEGR form to fill in back in 2010. The form took six weeks to turn and an appotment with the local PD. to retrieve the gun.

          I initiall owned it for 4 months, prep had it for 16 years and now it shoots exactly like I remember but looks to have been carried in the waistband numerous times.
          Last edited by majtom94; 11-27-2013, 1:28 PM.
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          • #6
            majtom94
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1120

            If you want to follow the property recovery process: they will run the serial numbers on guns to get a driver license number and then run that to get current location. If your license is up to date. My recovered item was 'lost' for 16 years.

            I moved but my gun was in the town PD where it was stolen from, letter went to the new address on the license.
            "Do Democrats even realize that they are making more people buy more guns?"

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            • #7
              xounlistedxox
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2597

              The strange thing is that I randomly called Pd Property a couple weeks ago at most & they said they didn't have anything for me
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              • #8
                xounlistedxox
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2597

                Information updated
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                • #9
                  xounlistedxox
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2597

                  No one has had any experience with this?
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                  • #10
                    readysetgo
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 8694

                    Not much to it, you send in the LEGR and fee then wait.

                    You did not need to send any pictures or other info, those will not help you in any way shape or form, sending certified mail is always a good idea.

                    Boring, I know.
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                    • #11
                      xounlistedxox
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2597

                      Originally posted by readysetgo
                      Not much to it, you send in the LEGR and fee then wait.

                      You did not need to send any pictures or other info, those will not help you in any way shape or form, sending certified mail is always a good idea.

                      Boring, I know.
                      Ya, not an efficient process at all, but that seems to be every aspect of anything involving the govt these days.
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                      • #12
                        xounlistedxox
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2597

                        Op updated today
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                        • #13
                          dwtt
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7470

                          From what I've seen of government workers, your application won't be touched until after the new year. The employees are all too busy planning Christmas parties, buying gifts online at work, going to office parties, and planning their Christmas and New Year. Nothing gets done in government offices during the month of December unless it's life threatening, or something that will cost them their jobs.

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                          • #14
                            Bainter1212
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 5936

                            I filed a LEGR in march of this year. Took 3 months. It is my opinion (and the opinion of many here) that Kamala Harris has ordered her employees to delay the processing of any gun related paperwork for as long as possible. There are lawsuits in process for these very delays.

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                            • #15
                              xounlistedxox
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2597

                              Originally posted by dwtt
                              From what I've seen of government workers, your application won't be touched until after the new year. The employees are all too busy planning Christmas parties, buying gifts online at work, going to office parties, and planning their Christmas and New Year. Nothing gets done in government offices during the month of December unless it's life threatening, or something that will cost them their jobs.
                              Wouldn't surprise me at all. When I went to do my livescan for ccw permit 1 out of 10 people in the sheriffs station was actually doing something work related. Two women were talking about some other woman, one guy was playing solitaire, two other people were conversating about what's for lunch @8am, & the others were sitting in front of computers not appearing to be doing anything. It seems most of anything govt related is a bad joke at best these days. If I were to waste time on the clock like this in any job I've had I would be let go in short order. Same as if I were to treat a customer like I was treated when I called doj
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