Democracy Unplugged Forum Sampler 1 (video)

[darrenlobo]

Three interesting and controversial topics were explored to discover which generated enough interest to have a debate on at a future date. After each presentation audience questions were be answered by the presenters.

Gun Rights - Presented by Darren Wolfe

Immigration Reform - Presented by Corina Ramos

Right to Privacy - Presented by James Babb

http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/11/democracy-unplugged-forum-sampler-1.html

[Darto]

The founding fathers were libertarians. That is what separation of powers is all about. They had a belly full of big government under George and so they instituted gridlock to keep anything from being done by the national government. The next time someone mentions gridlock and not being any way to get things done and they question who is responsible for that: Thank the founders, they are responsible.

America is greater than most foreign nations in large part because our founders were wiser than most and so they hardwired gridlock into the system.

[darrenlobo]

The founding fathers were libertarians. That is what separation of powers is all about. They had a belly full of big government under George and so they instituted gridlock to keep anything from being done by the national government. The next time someone mentions gridlock and not being any way to get things done and they question who is responsible for that: Thank the founders, they are responsible.

Some were libertarians & some weren't. Hamilton was definitely not. He actually proposed a unitary govt where the feds would appoint the governors of the states:

8th. The Legislature of the United States to have Power to institute Courts in each State["s" stricken out] for the determination of all matters of general concern.

9th. The Governors, Senators, and all Officers of the United States to be liable to impeachment for Mal and corrupt conduct, and upon Conviction to be removed from office and disqualified for holding any place of trust or profit. All impeachments to be tried by a Court to consist of the Chief or Senior Judge of the Superior Court of Law of each State, provided that such Judge hold his place during good behavior and have a permanent Salary.

10th. All Laws of the particular States contrary to the Constitution or laws of the United States to be utterly void. And the better to prevent such Laws being passed; the Governor or President of each State shall be appointed by the General Government and shall have a Negative upon the Laws about to be passed in the State of which he is Governor or President.

11th. No State to have any Forces, Land or Naval, and the Militia of all the States to be under the sole and exclusive direction of the United States, the Officers of which to be appointed and commissioned by them.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/hamtextc.asp